Does He Say These Things In Front Of His Mom!?

As the radical right loses support for their wild eyed ideas and singular solutions they get more and more radical and outrageous with their comments. Here is a comment from a blog with a bunch of piss your pants fear kids, excuse me, young people, that live on the far edge of radical right paranoia.

....I'm waiting for the Democrats to chime in with their brainless bumper-sticker slogans they think are arguments: What about civilian deaths? Bush is just as bad as Ahmadinejad! Iran never attacked us! What about the environmental impact? World opinion will turn against us!Well, when nukes go off in Los Angeles, Tel Aviv, and other places, do Democrats care about the environmental impact, the civilian deaths, or world opinion? (The Russians and Chinese will be quite happy seeing a rival go down like this.) No, they won't, because they'll believe *anything* that serves the goal of taking down Bush and America. I'm misinformed; many, including a professor at Berkeley, have told me Iran has the right to nukes (and by implication, the right to nuke us, but they refuse to *think* or examine evidence) because we supported the Shah. The West is sinful-- racist, sexist, hegemonist, homophobic, and probably deserves everything coming our way in these rotten, cynical minds.

First of all they don't have an nuke yet! According to Bushs' chosen, Mr. Negroponte they won't have for a minimum of 5 to 10 years.

Let's examine these comments.
1. Brainless bumper sticker slogans? Any doubt from anyone who has watched the political landscape over the past decade what party lives and dies on bumper sticker slogans? Let's see what he calls bumper sticker slogans...

A. What about civilian deaths-Obviously he thinks that this new type of threat can be met in old ways. To turn a slogan, pre 9/11 thinking. Fortunately we have a good number of people who realize that civilian deaths do much to increase the threat to us and makes more terrorists. This battle must be fought in new and different ways.

B. Bush is just as bad as Ahmadinejad! Iran never attacked us!
I don't think any rational person would say that. The tactic of preemptive war would however be quite like what we say we stand against(or at least use to). Being against attacking others absent an attack on us has always what stood America in good stead with the rest of the world and why they would look to us for guidance. It is no longer true because of people like this.

C. What about the environmental impact?
Obviously he cares not that we make a large part of the planet uninhabitable for at least 50 years. Let alone the radiation that enters the atmosphere and could eventually effect him and his family.

D. World opinion will turn against us!
Little late for that isn't it!? These people again don't understand that the world on our side, especially people of the Moslem faith is the best way to win this battle. Turning people against us..well why should one even have to explain this!

Well, when nukes go off in Los Angeles, Tel Aviv, and other places, do Democrats care about the environmental impact, the civilian deaths, or world opinion? (The Russians and Chinese will be quite happy seeing a rival go down like this.)

These kids writing this stuff aren't old enough to remember that we were under a nuclear threat for decades. No body told them about the cold war when nukes were pointed directly at American cities. The solution was mutually assured destruction. There is no doubt that would be the result this time so let's just say it. You nuke, we nuke.
The Chinese economy would torpedo without the U.S. Again another example of the lack of ability to see the big picture.

No, they won't, because they'll believe *anything* that serves the goal of taking down Bush and America.
I can promise you I and a number of other people have made it clear, many times in many ways, that we love our country and don't hate Bush as much as his policies. It has been pointed out dozens of times. It doesn't fit in his frame and his desire to hate so he ignores it.

I'm misinformed; many, including a professor at Berkeley, have told me Iran has the right to nukes (and by implication, the right to nuke us, but they refuse to *think* or examine evidence) because we supported the Shah.
Well, honestly with the talk this guy is spewing and our new pre emptive policy I can see why they would fear. We should be working toward fewer nukes and not more. The left is in agreement on this. ....They have the right to nukes because we supported the Shah? No one is saying this, he is making it up. It is a non sequitur.

The West is sinful-- racist, sexist, hegemonist, homophobic, and probably deserves everything coming our way in these rotten, cynical minds.
Many of the religious right say the western culture is sinful but he won't mention that. The rest is a number of problems that we are trying to deal with but is not about hating America. It is about bettering America. Everyone is subject to the laws of action reaction like it or not so as far as deserving it.. We would like to deserve good instead of evil....Now who has the rotten cynical mind?

The important thing to note is that the real enemy in this screed, as it is with almost all of their screeds is not the Iranians but the "liberal". They talk about hating America and spend all their time hating Americans. A sick mind is a terrible thing to give a mouth.

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Notes on Iraq

This is a good example of how upside down the world is.
BAGHDAD: Iraq has doubled the money allocated for importing oil products in August and September to tackle the country's worst fuel shortage since Saddam Hussein's 2003 ouster, a senior Iraqi official has said. Even though Iraq has the world's third-largest proven oil reserves, it is forced to depend on imports because of an acute shortage of refined products like gasoline, kerosene and cooking gas.

Do you think this is pulling the people we are trying to liberate to our side? I can hear the rightists say "Hey this isn't our fault, they need to quit fighting with each other and blowing stuff up!" True statement,but as we instigated all this we are being held responsible and if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Stay the course doesn't cut it anymore. Without leadership and a bold plan Americans will continue to die for Iraq. We have no way out under the current plan. I have no idea how those that say "when we leave..." , be it under a time line or not I see no different results. Iran with their large shite population is a natural ally. So now do we go to war with Iran too!!>???? Then do we get caught up warring with Moslem populations around the globe? Is this the America you believe in? We need bold visionary leadership not someone who is stuck in the stone age of the fight on terrorism. A new type of threat means new ways to fight it. We need allies in this fight not more enemies. We especially need the Moslems who mean us no harm and would like to live peacefully on our side. Invoking war on all Moslem countries will doom those people to the other side.

Here is some more reading on the issue:

Did you know that the radical right thinks nukes is the answer. They think we don't only because it would invoke negative public opinion, and we ought to get over it. Lord I hope that is not the only reason we don't use them.

We are getting ready for a rerun of Iraq. Cheney has decided he only wants the intelligence that says what he wants it to say again.

Heard It All Before

Ever notice how the rightists just sound like a mish mash of talking points and sound bites these days? Last night Paul Hackett showed us a sharp, confident and bold Democrat. What a ray of light after years of right wing coddling, calculating, skiddish Dems we have become use to. It also appears that Chris Matthews has decided(at least for today) his viewers want substance and not warmed over talking points. Warning to the rightists. Don't watch this unless you don't mind serious disappointment. To the rest of you, this is another download thing. I know it takes time to download but I try not to put them on here unless they are worth your time and this absolutely is. Go Here

From The Planet

News and comment for 8/21


Nation Page

No JonBenet!!!!!!!!

Republicans have lost their way when it comes to many core GOP principles and may be in jeopardy heading into the fall elections, Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. says. Hagel, a possible presidential candidate in 2008, said Sunday that the GOP today is very different party from the one when he first voted Republican . It's not what it used to be. I don't think it's the same today."

Well duh! Only those to young to remember would think anything different. I think it is interesting to note that Democrats have been telling them this for years now.

Chuck is getting pretty outspoken these days.

Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) went on Fox News Sunday to discuss the Middle East and had tough talk about the situation in the Middle East. Senator Hagel told host Chris Wallace, "We don’t have any good options. We got a mess on our hands in the Middle East."
SEN. HAGEL: "We've got a very unstable Middle East, I think the most unstable Middle East we've seen since 1948, and you can measure that any way you want. The fact is the future of Iraq will be determined by the Iraqi people, just like it was in Vietnam. The answer, in my opinion, is not to just keep feeding more American troops into it"...
"We, in fact, are in probably in a low-grade, perhaps very defined civil war. You've got corruption, everywhere, as bad as it's ever been. You've got uncontrolables that we can't control, we can't deal with. Iran probably has more influence in Iraq than we do".

You mean the Iraqi people will be responsible for Iraqs' future!? What a concept! Civil war? How long until he is accused of “hating our troops?”

The grass roots is rising.

In a year of bad omens for the GOP, the latest batch of disclosure forms filed with the Federal Election Commission offers one more: Incumbency no longer means that embattled Republican representatives can expect to overwhelm weakly funded Democratic challengers with massive spending on advertising and get-out-the-vote efforts. If anything, the financial figures show that political success can be self-reinforcing. After this year's first-quarter fund raising period, which ended March 31, operatives and campaign funding specialists were struck by how a surge in small, individual contributions was lifting many Democratic candidates -- incumbents and challengers alike -- closer to parity with historically better-funded Republicans.

Thankfully it appears they are getting tired of this shit. Even if it is just other shit. Give us something different. Real Americans like you and I are making a difference.


World Page

Blair feels betrayed by Bush, just like many Americans.

The alliance between George Bush and Tony Blair is in danger after it was revealed that the Prime Minister believes the President has 'let him down badly' over the Middle East crisis. A senior Downing Street source said that, privately, Mr Blair broadly agrees with John Prescott, who said Mr Bush's record on the issue was 'crap'.
The source said: "We all feel badly let down by Bush. We thought we had persuaded him to take the Israel-Palestine situation seriously, but we were wrong. How can anyone have faith in a man of such low intellect?" The rift between No10 and the White House stems from British anger that Mr Bush failed to do enough to pursue the 'road map' to peace between the Israelis and Palestinians, which he approved, at Mr Blair's instigation, on the eve of the Iraq war.
"We have been banging on at them for three years about the need to address the Palestinian problem but they just won't engage," said a senior Government insider. "That is one of the reasons there is such a mess now."

Yep, Bush said “Tony, make you a deal”. Then he ignored it when he got what he wanted. Another person discovers he is a liar.


Science and Tech Page

Cheap, clean energy?

A man who claims to have developed a free energy technology which could power everything from mobile phones to cars has received more than 400 applications from scientists to test it.
Sean McCarthy says that no one was more sceptical than he when Steorn, his small hi-tech firm in Dublin, hit upon a way of generating clean, free and constant energy from the interaction of magnetic fields. 'It wasn't so much a Eureka moment as a get-back-in-there-and-check-your-instruments moment, although in far more colourful language,' said McCarthy. But when he attempted to share his findings, he says, scientists either put the phone down on him or refused to endorse him publicly in case they damaged their academic reputations. So last week he took out a full-page advert in the Economist magazine, challenging the scientific community to examine his technology.
McCarthy claims it provides five times the amount of energy a mobile phone battery generates for the same size, and does not have to be recharged. Within 36 hours of his advert appearing he had been contacted by 420 scientists in Europe, America and Australia, and a further 4,606 people had registered to receive the results.

Sadly, all I can say is if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.


Stuff

The Internet buzz over "Snakes on a Plane" turned out to be nothing to hiss about. The high-flying thriller preceded by months of unprecedented Web buildup technically debuted as the No. 1 movie, but with a modest $15.25 million opening weekend, according to studio estimates Sunday. Expectations had been all over the place on how well "Snakes on a Plane" would do. New Line had hoped the movie would debut at least above $20 million, while theater owners had been predicting the movie might come in anywhere from the $15 million range to $40 million. The movie stars Jackson as an FBI agent battling killer snakes that have been put on a red-eye flight to do away with a witness about to testify in a gang murder.

1. "Snakes on a Plane," $15.25 million.
2. "Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby," $14.1 million.
3. "World Trade Center," $10.8 million.
4. "Accepted," $10.1 million.
5. "Step Up," $9.9 million.
6. "Barnyard: The Original Party Animals," $7.5 million.
7. "Little Miss Sunshine," $5.7 million.
8. "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest," $5 million.
9. "Material Girls," $4.6 million.
10. "Pulse," $3.5 million.

Breast implants won't fix your life.

...The research, carried out by Dutch scientists, found that there were almost three times the rate of suicides among women who had received breast implants compared with the population at large.
They say that a desire for breast augmentation may, in some women, be a symptom of a far deeper insecurity and low self esteem which, in extreme cases, could trigger a suicide attempt. Dr Veronica Koot, .... said: "We think that some of the women who ask for cosmetic surgery - for instance breast implants - actually do have another problem, and if you operate, it won't help them. "These women should first seek help for their psychological problems before seeking cosmetic surgery."

Even if it does solve one problem it may create new ones. I think you call that conclusion “maturity”.

Sports Page

No tears, no sweat. One month after an emotional victory in the British Open, Tiger Woods won the PGA Championship with a ruthless display of efficiency Sunday, closing with a 4-under 68 for a five-shot victory and his 12th career major. Now, only Jack Nicklaus and his 18 majors stand in the way of Woods' becoming golf's greatest champion.

The dude was Gellin!

I just like the title. That even beats my record!

Kenseth wins..Bristol next week!

(Matt) Kenseth easily kept four-time NASCAR champion (Jeff) Gordon at bay in the final laps of the GFS Marketplace 400...... Tony Stewart, the two-time and defending Cup champion, finished third, and was followed by Kasey Kahne, Mark Martin, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Greg Biffle, all of whom are still fighting for spots in the Chase.
But four other drivers took big hits in their effort to make it to the Chase.
Jeff Burton, the pole-sitter, had engine failure after just 17 laps and fell from fourth to ninth in the standings after a 42-place finish. Kyle Busch dropped two spots to seventh after he bounced off the wall and blew out a tire, leaving him in 39th place on Sunday. Kurt Busch, the 2004 champion and Kyle's older brother, saw his chances of getting to the top 10 fade as he also had tire problems and hit the wall twice. He was 40th and fell from 12th to 14th -- 279 points behind 10th-place Earnhardt. Carl Edwards, who led 32 laps and was running in the top 10 with less than 30 to go, crushed a fender in a collision with another car and fell to 22nd. He moved ahead of Busch to 13th, but is 244 points out of 10th heading into Saturday night's race at Bristol.