Monday, July 25, 2005

Nonsmoking Nazis Want To Take More Of Your Freedom

This, whether you are a smoker or not should send shivers down the spine of freedom loving people.

Two state lawmakers want to make it illegal to drive a car while smoking -- a seemingly long-shot proposal that extends the tobacco debate from public places into privately owned automobiles.
The bill, A-4306, introduced June 27, would stipulate up to a $250 fine for smoking while driving. It would be a secondary offense -- enforced only if a motorist had been pulled over for a separate traffic violation or other offense.


Damn, driving down the road in my private car that I paid for. On a road partially paid for by my tax dollars, smoking a cigarette that I payed for(with a huge tax payment to the state by the way). One place I must say I agree with the right is that too many on the left seem to want to protect us from ourselves. Occasionally it is appropriate but it's way overdone in this country. They always do it in the name of some higher "collective" good but it always comes down to the diminishment of freedom to live as you choose.

8 Comments:

Blogger The Game said...

I must give you high marks for taking this position. When I saw the headline I was confused. I didn't think a lib would take this position. In Milwaukee, they want to make smoking illegal everywhere. As long as smoking is legal, people should be able to do it in their homes and cars. Business owners should be able to decide if they want it or not. Most office buildings and eating establishments have already baned or restricted it. That is their choice, and that is okay. But the government should not be able to make that decision for us. If smoking and drinking are that bad, make them illegal....at least that would be consistant.

7:33 AM, July 26, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Game, I agree with all you said except the make them illegal part. If you believe in individual freedom you and I have more in common than you might think. Believe it or not individual power in government is part of the dictionary definition of a liberal. Part of why I proudly wear the moniker. I am a dictionary liberal not one that has been made up in the mind of Rush Limbaugh or Anne Coulter. I am a registered Democrat so I can have some say in the primaries but I am basically a liberal populist/libertarian....of sorts.:-)

6:38 PM, July 26, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

Hey, the best writer in the world is Ann coulter...anyway...I wasn't saying I think smoking and drinking should be illegal...but it is hard to teach children that some drugs are illegal and bad and some we let happen all around us...I teach health..

11:47 PM, July 26, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

you have to admit that most liberals are for all this smoking ban stuff...most liberals want the government to save people from themselves...you might be a "text book" liberal...but if you believe government should stay out of our lives as much as possible..you are a modern day concerative.

11:51 PM, July 26, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Would you let traitors go if they let you smoke your cigarrettes? What would you do for a carton of smokes? If smokes get more expensive, how will you pay for your cancer chemotherapy later?

5:48 PM, July 27, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the best writer in the world is ann coulter??!! and she is a truly "balanced" source is well, no doubt. she who said max cleland deserved to lose his limbs.

the best writer in the world is hal crowther. i really wish you would read this article. it is entertaining as well as being informative. and he was a former goldwater republican whereas ms. coulter's hero was old joe mccarthy.

http://www.populist.com/04.10.crowther.html

8:10 PM, July 27, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron, you and I have had this discussion before. In my opinion, smoking is a slow form of suicide. However, I am not prepared to say it should be illegal. It wouldn't work anyway, any more than Prohibition did. It hasn't even worked to tax the daylights out of cigarettes and raise the price skyhigh. People ought to be able to smoke in their homes, those of other smokers, and in their cars.
However, I am concerned about second hand smoke and its effects on others. Unfortunately, SOME smokers are totally inconsiderate of other people. I have allergies and get a sinus attack when I am exposed to smoke of any kind. Yet, smokers think nothing of lighting up right next to me without asking if I mind. That is so rude. Would you do that to people, Ron? Probably not, yet you fail to understand the non-smokers' viewpoint. People with allergies, asthma, emphysema, etc. and children should not be forced to inhale someone's cigarette smoke. What is YOUR pleasure is SOMEONE
ELSE'S poison.
If people want to smoke in bars where they will be spending hours and hours-fine. I don't go to bars, anyway, and non-smokers can choose not to, also. I do object to being exposed to it in public buildings and/or walking out of a door into a wall of smoke, etc. Anyone who can not go to a grocery store, Wal-Mart, etc. or spend an hour in an eating establishment without smoking is smoking too much and needs to cut down. Smoking should be banned in places where young children and babies will be eating, etc. They don't have any say about where they are going to be and can't complain to the smoker. Y'all have the right to smoke, but we have the right not to. OK?
--The DemoCat

4:44 PM, July 30, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Ron!
Thought of a very practical reason for you to quit smoking-your voice is your bread and butter-right?-because you're a D.J.
My dad got larnyx cancer from smoking and had to have it removed so lost his voice permanently. I've read stories about singers, etc. who have lost their ability to sing due to smoking.
Now, I think you have a nice voice and always enjoy listening to you on the show. Suppose you end up sounding like Harvey Fierstein, or something, if you don't quit smoking. Just a thought.
DemoCat

3:28 PM, August 04, 2005  

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