Saturday, November 12, 2005

Coffee Table

OK people, the liberal media is finally saying at least something about the evidence of a deception. The Republicans are reexamining their priorities. The President is trying to pull it off again, for about the third time. I was miss informed, they thought so too, you are harming the troops, you are harming America. Lets all go back to those glory days of the election! Don't let them get away with it again!!!! Let's stop this here and now. We have the momentum. The prom queen is wearing no dress. This party is over.

40 Comments:

Blogger The Donkey said...

"The prom queen is wearing no dress."

WTF? The Donkey hesitates before he asks what is Ron thinking.

5:14 PM, November 12, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Donkey, creative writing suggest that somethings be left to the readers imagination. :-)

3:41 PM, November 13, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Gah! Can't the hound dogs find something better to put on Coffee Table than a discussion about an undressed prom queen? Guess not. :-) I see that Game has not joined in. Evidently, Game is not a hound dog.
Seriously, Paul Krugman just did a really good column about The Emperor With No Clothes which relates to the present Administration's refusal to admit reality despite the truth coming out.
Letterman did a really neat thing the other night where Cheney admitted the truth about one thing and the next thing you know it started listing all the other things they lied about (Valerie Plame, no WMDs, no connection to Al Qaeda, cheating in both elections,...) Jeez, the times I fail to have a tape in the VCR!
:-( Oh, well!

4:54 PM, November 13, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

Not a whole lot of reason to post here anymore...

Every now and then Ron or Jim will say something that can atleast be talked about...democat on one issue one time..

otherwise it is all insults and hate...I know Ron understands this and I bet it actually bothers him atleast a little that there can not be any debate here...atleast, if he is really "tolerant."

Ron knows at my blog most people are atleast making points, and when they get out of hand I tell them so...Ron does not do that here.

6:44 PM, November 13, 2005  
Blogger Jim said...

Get real Game. At your site, most of the posters make personal attacks on me and "liberals" while offering no facts. They don't defend their side, they merely attack the other side.

I read "uninformed whiners" and "stupid liberals". I read sweeping generalizations and opinions backed up by no evidence.

Real America might have one or two posters who don't care to debate, but at your site, posters like Stephanie Rose and Espella Humanzee are the epitome of uninformed, backward bigots. I can't even call them "conservatives" because their words don't resemble any I hear out of conservatives I honestly respect (even when I disagree).

At least you try most of the time, but to quote one of my favorite movie lines, "You argue, but you do not persuade." (Amadeus)

8:37 PM, November 13, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

jim...if you remember last time steph went off I told her to knock it off...

10:11 PM, November 13, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Indy Media, more evidence of the Liberal Media:

LA Times Columnist Robert Scheer Fired: Publisher Hated Every Word About Bush Lies
author: repost
"So much for the media's protestations of regret for backing the Neocons." (whatreallyhappened.com)
Scheer responds

In an email to friends and supporters, soon-to-be-ex Times columnist Robert Scheer blames Publisher Jeffrey M. Johnson for his ouster from the op-ed page:

On Friday I was fired as a columnist by the publisher of the Los Angeles Times, where I have worked for thirty years. The publisher Jeff Johnson, who has offered not a word of explanation to me, has privately told people that he hated every word that I wrote. I assume that mostly refers to my exposing the lies used by President Bush to justify the invasion of Iraq. Fortunately sixty percent of Americans now get the point but only after tens of thousand of Americans and Iraqis have been killed and maimed as the carnage spirals out of control. My only regret is that my pen was not sharper and my words tougher.
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2005/11/scheer_responds.html

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"Liberal Fascism" Author Jonah Goldberg Now L.A. Times Op-Ed Columnist

The Los Angeles Times announced a major shake-up of its op-ed page today. Gone are cartoonist Michael Ramirez and liberal columnist Robert Scheer.

In their place, you won't find any committed progressives like Scheer. Instead, L.A. Times editors chose National Review contributing editor and "Liberal Fascism" author Jonah Goldberg. Below, some of our favorite Jonah jems, coming to a "liberal media" near you:

On McCarthy's wisdom:

What makes McCarthyism so hard to discuss is that McCarthy behaved like a jerk, but he was also right.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/11/latimes-jonah/

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Published on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 by the Los Angeles Times
Lying With Intelligence
by Robert Scheer

Who in the White House knew about DITSUM No. 044-02 and when did they know it?

That's the newly declassified smoking-gun document, originally prepared by the Defense Intelligence Agency in February 2002 but ignored by President Bush. Its declassification this weekend blows another huge hole in Bush's claim that he was acting on the best intelligence available when he pitched the invasion of Iraq as a way to prevent an Al Qaeda terror attack using weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1108-23.htm

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January 11, 2005
Robert Scheer:
Is Al Qaeda Just a Bush Boogeyman?

Is it conceivable that Al Qaeda, as defined by President Bush as the center of a vast and well-organized international terrorist conspiracy, does not exist?
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1714077.php

Lonna

8:07 AM, November 14, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Well, gee, Game, sorry if my debating on ONE issue at a time is a problem for you. I don't have unlimited time to be on the blog, and with my Tolstoy tendencies to write long in-depth posts it might be better to concentrate on one issue at a time.
Puhleeze, look up the definition of Liberal in a dictionary and post it on your blog! Your definition of a "cartoon liberal" is ridiculous. Most of us aren't stupid uneducated radical bomb throwing pot smoking baby killers, anymore than most conservatives are rabid hatemongering war lovin' gun totin' Confederate flag wavin' pick-up drivin' religious wackos who marry their close cousins.
Plus, you still haven't explained why you still support cheaters (Bush/Cheney) and why peace is unchristian and unamerican.

4:23 PM, November 14, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Re: today's show
Of course, Bush's speech was offensive. His whole administration is offensive, for goodness sake! This is just more of the same old same old from these guys who claim to be the party of personal responsibility and can't take any for their moral failures and ineptitude. "Blame the other guy" seems to be their motto.
I don't care how NICE
Steve Pearce is to talk to. They say that Dubya is nice to talk to, also, always ready with a joke or a funny story and look how he's done us. Jeez Louise! A used car salesman is gonna be really nice to your face until you come back complaining about the lemon he sold you. Pearce ALWAYS votes with Bush and Bush is scre*ing the country. Love is not the way I would describe my feelings for Pearce at all, esp. since he has voted to drill in ANWR EVERY single time.
Re: trying juvenilles as adults. No. Granted, a 14 year old is more mature than an 8 year old and knows what he/she has done, but to understand it emotionally on an adult level? No. Plus, you gotta look at the factor of the hormonal upheavels at that age. These kids' bodies/brains are still developing. They aren't adults.
There are kids who are psychopathic/sociopathic and psychiatrists need to determine that and these kids need to be put away someplace where they can't hurt anyone, but I prefer to think that most kids can be rehabilitated if a TRUE effort is made.
Re: Liberal parenting causing school shootings. Oh, give me a break! Absent parents who leave their kids in the care of Mortal Kombat, etc., give them THINGS to make up for a lack of love and attention, and have no clue about what's going on the lives of their kids is the real problem here. We hear so much more about the shootings in the white schools because it's unusual enough to be NEWS so the Liberal media makes a big deal of it. If the inner city schools aren't being shot up, it's because of the extra security guards, metal detectors, etc. Well, teachers and students can be shot at, etc. just outside of the school grounds , in their neighborhoods, etc. and it happens all the time.
Game, did you forget the posts you've done about the inner city in Milwaukee, the drugs, the gun toting parents who are horrible role models to their kids, how teachers and students are afraid all the time?
As for Colorado, well, who was the ultimate symbol for the liberal peace loving tree hugging hippies getting back to nature by moving into the 'Rocky Mountain High" state? As far as I know, none of John Denver's kids have ever shot up their high schools and killed their principals. Get a clue, Game!!
"Do unto others..." is a good thing to teach your kids, unless, of course, the kids don't care much about themselves to begin with. Teaching them to value themselves and others, plus open communication with them, is good. That doesn't mean excusing them from consequences for bad behavior, tho.

4:50 PM, November 14, 2005  
Blogger Jim said...

Game, I appreciate that. I'm not sure which post it was, but would like to read it again if you can remind me.

Thanks.

8:12 PM, November 14, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

I finally found it...I wrote it on November 6th from a post written Nobember 3rd called "What is really happening in our schools?"

I know I started the name calling...and actually I am going to apologize...not productive..

and you are possibly right on one more thing...I know I lump everyone who doesn't agree with me as a liberal....probably not fair...

I am still going to stand up for my opinions; of course I believe mine are correct.

MPS buildings are completely fucked up...let me be the expert on this one.

Lets lay of the name calling and bullshit comments....lets leave that for sites like Ron's.

For anyone who actually wants to debate, I have the abstinence vs comprehensive sex education question up right now...this is a GREAT topic for debate...and since I probably agree with this sites readers on this issue more than my own, it could be a fun debate.

9:47 PM, November 14, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Democat..I see where your imagination is leading you.(for some reason won't print mmmmmmmmmmmm...haaaaaaaa!

10:32 PM, November 14, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David Corn wrote a pretty good summary of how BUSH is rewriting history and was in his Veterans' Day rant. Notice his speech had nothing to do with veterans.

It is too bad the people who need to read this won't.

On the "Colbert Report" last night (follows Jon Stewart) Bob Kerrey was on. He said Bush still cannot admit even one mistake he has made. He said "I can think of five mistakes I've made just today."

http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2005/11/bush_rewrites_h.php

Lonna

8:14 AM, November 15, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The N Y Times (for all intents and purposes) finally calls Bush a liar -- also about his Veterans' Day speech.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/15/opinion/15tue1.html?hp

Lonna

8:31 AM, November 15, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Democat fails to see what
Mr. Stevens is refering to, unless it is to the thing about nude prom queens. OK, Democat admits to sighing over Brad Pitt a few times on this blog. (Who can blame her, although, she wishes he'd leave his hair blonde and stop cutting it short?) Democat admits to being a "hound dogette", but at least she has a lot of romance in her soul which is more than can be said for the frog jockey.

1:35 PM, November 15, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Also, Re: Larry's suggestion that blog comments be included in the show's content if time allows-good idea. If Mr. Stevens wishes to use any of my blog comments* that he feels would be an asset to the show he may do so, providing he does not reveal my real name.
* PTU-permission to use

1:42 PM, November 15, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a response from an Vietnam veteran who has a son in Iraq to something I wrote.

I am just curious. How many of you know about the USS Liberty?

This is what Tom wrote:

Shed No Tears for the Fallen Soldier

There was an old saying...
"Shed no tears for the fallen soldier, for they know that when they go to kill, they must be prepared and willing to die."
My father said those words to me and my younger brother when we enlisted in the Marines in 1968. He then brought out the old flag folded in a triangle that was in remembrance of my uncle (also a Marine) who was killed in WWII.

Today, my son is in Iraq. Before he left, I told him , just like my
father told me, about that old saying... I also told him that he is not just representing those Weasles in Washington, D.C., bu he is representing me, my brother and every other American, so act accordingly.

In combat, it's kill or be killed...your life is in the winds of fate. I hope he makes it out O.K. I hope he learns...

Thank you (Tom)

Here is another of [Tom's] rants...

Every other blue moon, politicians accidentally reveal the "around the
water cooler" sentiments that they feel, but will not say in public. A
classic example of this is when Trent Lott made his now infamous
statement in support of Strom Thurmond, "...that this nation would have been better off today if we had adhered to the practice of racial discrimination..." The crowd behind him cheered and applauded. That "great statesman", Henry Kissinger revealed what the government thinks of members of the armed services when he said, "...they are dumb,stupid animals, to be used as pawns to further US foreign policies".
Donna Shalala, Secty. of Health and Human Services under Clinton made the statement that those who went to Vietnam " ...weren't the brightest nor the best, not the cream of the crop" (which earned her a nasty letter from my mother, for she had two sons in the Marines during the Vietnam war). Cuts in funding for the VA hospitals, the resistance of
the government to help the victims of Agent Orange, depleted uranium,
and their discharging of wounded veterans before their treatment is complete is further evidence of our government's disdain for the
serviceperson. Actions speak louder than words...

The truth has come out; the alleged attack on the USS Forrestal never happened, it was just lies used to ramrod the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution through Congress to authorize the war. A Navy pilot who was in the air
above this attack said that all he saw was "US firepower shooting into a black empty sea." A year later Pres. Johnson made the statement that "...for all I know, they could have been shooting at whales".

The only attack on a US vessel during that time was the attack on the USS Liberty by the ISRAELIS in 1967. The ship was torpedoed, napalmed, and strafed, killing 34 US servicemen and wounding 171 out of a crew of 297, the worst loss of life aboard a US vessel since WWII.

Lies, lies and more lies. 58,000+ dead US servicepersons, 3,000,000+ dead Southeast Asians, all over lies...and the LIARS got ich...Now we are being lied to again and the LIARS are getting richer on the blood of 2000+ dead US Servicepersons and 130,000+ dead Iraqis... James Glasser, commandant of VFW Post 3869 and a Vietnam-era combat veteran hit the nail dead on the money, when he said that it's time for ALL veterans to face the fact that "...we've been had". All veterans, past and present, must
wake up to the harsh fact that even though we have served our country "HONORABLY and FAITHFULLY", the politicians , in Washington will not honor their oaths of office, and will not erve the people of this country honorably and faithfully. Many veterans are in denial...they
want to believe that we did the right thing in Vietnam, and are doing the right thing in Afghanistan and Iraq.

As one of those dumb stupid animals, one of the not so bright, I find myself awake, wide awake, and very, very angry that they lied to us. I look around and I see my brothers in arms waking up too.

THE DUMB, STUPID ANIMALS ARE WAKING UP. and when they all wake up, they will be a force to reckon with.

The Vietnam war, based on deliberate lies, that cost Humanity
3,058,000+ lives was not a "tragic mistake" as Robert McNamara recently stated, but an atrocity and a crime of the highest magnitude. It may be too late for my Brothers and Sisters whose names appear on the Vietnam
Wall of Death in Washington DC, but it's not too late to stop these
current atrocities in the Middle East.

All Veterans took an oath to Preserve and Defend the Constitution of
the United States. We need to do so...NOW!

Lonna

5:15 PM, November 15, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Game, democracy is tough, free speech is even tougher. I won't say I approve of everything said or done here but I'm not here to baby sit. You are all grownups and if you haven't learned to act that way I guess this is a good life experience for you. It's a part of my libertarian side.
Threats and discussion of physical harm to each other is over the line for me. That would get deleted completely. Otherwise....FREEFORALLLLLLLLLLLLL!
Whenever I would whine as a kid my stepdad would always say..."It's the makins of ya if you can take it".

9:08 PM, November 15, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

fair enough Ron, but it doesn't help get an honest debate..

9:16 PM, November 15, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Hey Lame Game:
You are a fiend and a sniveling coward, and you have bad breath.You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. The Donkey feels debased just knowing that you exist. The Donkey despises everything about you, and wishs you would go away. You are jetsam who dreams of becoming flotsam. You won't make it. The Donkey begs for sweet time to come and remove you from a blog which became unbearable when you crawled out of a harpy's lair.

11:26 PM, November 15, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Game, debate with those who will and save the slams on you for a future smackdown.
Democat, frog jockey knows a little about love too. It obviously doesn't suit everyone but hey who does?

11:53 PM, November 15, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Knowing a little about love and being ROMANTIC are 2 different things.
Democat NEVER said that love and romance didn't suit her. She said she was disillusioned. A volotile 18 year marriage and divorce, not to mention getting royally burned a number of times before said marriage have a lot to do with that. However, Democat still loves romantic movies, songs, novels, and poetry. She is still a romantic at heart regardless of the opinions of pragmatic frog jockeys.

1:22 PM, November 16, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Kudos to Lonna for her explanations re: why people (mostly women) stay in abusive relationships. She was right on!
I would like to add that our religions (Christianity, esp.) teach us we must forgive those who hurt us. Also, there are Catholic Church prohibitions re: divorce, a desire to stay married for the children's sake, and (very important) financial considerations when the husband is the only or primary source of income.
People who grow up in STABLE families often don't understand about these things, and are too quick to judge. Some of these people are seemingly unable to tolorate weakness in others, even family members, and therefore LACK EMPATHY. Unfortunately, this is even true among people who have had to deal with problems of their own, including substance abuse.
Re: soulmates. I am interested in this and the subject of reincarnation, in general. Some people believe that there are 3 kinds of soulmates: True flame or twin(ideal mate); companion soulmates (more likely to be soul groups-work together on a project of some kind); and karmic (must work out bad karma of/between souls in successive incarnations until they get it right). Being someone's soulmate doesn't guarantee a happily ever after ending. I should know. I married mine-one of those can't live with him and can't live without him kind of things.

1:39 PM, November 16, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

(John Alan Lee from: "Interplay; The Process of Interpersonal
Communication" (5th Ed.)
Types of Love
Eros: "Sexual love is eros and the erotic lover regards love as life's most important activity."
Ludos: "The Latin word for play is ludos, and the ludic lover considers love a game, a pleasant pastime, which requires neither much feeling nor commitment."
Storge: "Storgic love, or storge, is love without intensity or excitement. It is an extention of friendship and affection.'
Agape: "Agapic love, derived from a Greek word agape, is completely altruistic and deeply compassionate, given without ulterior motives or expectations of something in return."
Mania: "Often called "romantic love", mania or manic love is intense, obsessive, and painful. Manic lovers are out of control, continuously creating problems to intensify how they feel. Life without the partner's love is not worth living, so manic lovers abuse themselves to win the other's love, to force the other into greater and greater expressions of love. A rather dramatic relationship, manic love rarely ends happily."
Pragma: "The Greek word for heed or life work is pragma, and the pragmatic lover looks for contentment, a mate with whom a long-term relationship can be formed. Emotional extremes are avoided because they can get in the way of reciprocated affection and mutual problem solving."
(above-PTU)
Synonyms for pragmatic incl. practical and utilitarian.
Utilitarianism; the philosophical doctrine that action should be based on the uselfulness of its effects and that only the useful is good or worthwhile.
I imagine that that applies to people, also, thus if the highest priority one looks for in a potential mate is that he or she be an ASSET to oneself, the latter is most likely a pragmatic lover.
As for me, I admit that, as the song goes, I'm "Addicted to Love" and romance and am a certified relationship addict, too, so mania would be my primary love type. Not as stable as its opposite, pragmatism, but there's a lot to be said for romance, fire, and passion over practicality. :-)

2:05 PM, November 16, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Democat, I would admit to being a typical male when it comes to romance. I get it and I act on it occasionally but it is not anything close to vital for me. The pragmatic would fit me very well. However so does fire and passion. I wouldn't say I am quite insatiable but the physical acts of love are very big for me, from touches and hugs on up. People know me as a "hugger". Hopefully in a friendly and approprite way. Unfortunately large chunks of my life are without that...from anyone. I've learned to cope pretty well and accept life as it is but maybe that has something to do with the reason I am so intense when I have the opportunity?
Being single all my life my disillusionment is mountainous. Never enough to overcome the joys of closeness for very long though. I gained something from them all and that is a good thing. All of them are part of what makes me what I am and for that I am ever grateful. Although being me probably sickens some.:-)

4:57 PM, November 16, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Rant over. :-)
A little advice from
Sister Mary Democat, Mother-Confessor/relationship counseler to Ron:
I, for one, find it very irritating when you complain about not having a girlfriend. As I have pointed out, men your age find it much easier to find partners than women my age do. There is no reason on earth why you shouldn't have one except that you are holding onto the past. I'm not going to point out your flaws again, but you do also have a lot of good points (intelligence, talent, knowledge, etc.) that will attract women of all ages and being a DJ is undoubtedly an asset, too. Plus you've got a great voice. Wizard says that alone would have women beating a path to your door. :-)
It does seem that maybe the reason you have so much trouble having a long term relationship with someone is that you just don't understand women. 'Course you could just read "Men are from Mars: Women are from Venus" instead of listening to me, but here goes.
Most women are not going to want a pragmatic relationship. Talking about what you want in a relationship as if it's a business partnership is going to turn them off. Women like to be romanced. Most of us are going to be into the moonlight and roses/candlelight dinner thing. (& NEVER buy a woman a coffeemaker for her birthday!!!). Yes, we like men to respect us and think we're intelligent, but we, also, want them to compliment us and make us feel special (funny, talented, sweet, and attractive (esp. for women over 40)). We, also, like to feel needed, but want someone we can trust and depend on, too (that's not babysitting).
I will, also, add that if you find a woman who is as independent as you say, she will probably be so into her own career that she won't have time to help you with yours, so I don't know how much of an asset she will be.
Also, you're a Leo (fire sign), so Leo, Aries, and Saggitarius are compatible and any water sign (Cancer, Scorpio, and Pisces) definitely isn't.
Re: hugs -Don't you get hugs in your group? Go to Democratic Party rallies. We, Democrats, are a very huggy bunch of people. LOL Also, there's lots of hugs to be found in church. As a matter of fact, I had a friend who was a Nazarene, and she said that all the single, divorced, or widowed guys were constantly besieged by single women and their mothers, grandmothers, aunts, etc. bearing photos of them. However, if you are going to try that approach, you might want to practice running the other direction first, just in case. LOL Good luck!
The other bloggers can feel to chime in with their advice.
Sister Mary Democat doesn't claim to be an expert in these things.
PEACE be with you all!

2:51 PM, November 17, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Well, Here is a point you can get, game...

10:27 PM, November 17, 2005  
Blogger BeWitchingWizard said...

Ya all are nuts but who isn"t, we all need HUGS and Love and Romance and intense sexual fantasies even if we only have them in our mind , lets all be positive and Love one another...

PS Exceptions, Dick Cheney,Donald.............etc

12:22 PM, November 18, 2005  
Blogger BeWitchingWizard said...

During the time of the Roman Empire, the great sage Hillel was asked by a student if he could teach the entire wisdom of the universe while standing on one foot. It is not recorded which foot he chose to stand on, but what Hillel said has come down to us through the ages. "Love thy neighbor as thyself," he told the student. "The rest is only commentary."

12:28 PM, November 18, 2005  
Blogger BeWitchingWizard said...

Opps - The Maniac

12:29 PM, November 18, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Gotta agree with Wizard on people needing hugs, love, romance, and fantasies.
My own love life is obviously cursed, but, at least, I have a VERY vivid imagination and that helps. LOL Just gotta remember that The Stones really got it right cuz you can't always get what you want. (Maybe, I got what I deserved? Must've been REALLY bad in my last life-Ha!)
Also, why anyone would want to hug Cheney, etc. is beyond me. Yuk!!!
Re: playing "Whip it" on the show-I was surprised Ron didn't say something about being Ron Stevens, the Republican's whipping boy. ;-)
Also, add to Sister Mary Democat's advice-
NEVER forget her birthday, your anniversary, or Valentine's Day or you are in big trouble, Mister! Also, the only thing worse than giving her appliances is giving her power tools you'd like to have on your own tool bench. (The Donkey will find a C/W song about this, I'm sure.)
(Poor Ron. Why don't his co-workers offer to fix him up with someone? Republicans-Gah!!!)

3:31 PM, November 18, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

I complain about not having a girlfriend out of self deprecating humor.It's not something that really haunts me or anything. I must admit to being a person that is hard to love...in a romantic sense anyway. I probably wouldn't want to be with me either! :-) It's all ok really, I've been multiply blessed through my life and anything else is gravy.

11:15 PM, November 18, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before they succeed in smearing Murtha, his biography from a reader contribution "No More Band of Brothers" in Buzzflash:

...U.S. Rep. John P. Murtha has dedicated his life to serving his country both in the military and in the halls of Congress. He had a distinguished 37-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps, retiring from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990; and he has been serving the people of the 12th Congressional District in Pennsylvania since 1974.

He learned about military service from the bottom up, beginning as a raw recruit during the Korean War. There he earned the American Spirit Honor Medal, awarded to fewer than one in 10,000 recruits. He rose through the ranks and was selected for Officer Candidate School at Quantico, Virginia. In 1959, Captain Murtha took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown. He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for Vietnam in 1966-67, receiving the Bronze Star with Combat "V", two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He remained in the Reserves until his retirement. He was awarded the Navy Distinguished Service Medal by the Marine Corps Commandant when he retired from the Marines.

This tough old marine is now under attack by a bunch of people who never bothered to serve in the military of their country but are all too willing to let others fight and die.

If the people in this country who have served, as Congressman Murtha served, allow another veteran to be smeared by the lies and innuendo of a bunch of loud-mouthed cowards who never bothered to serve themselves, then the term "Band of Brothers" needs to be eradicated from the English language. If you do not stand up for your own, what possible unity do you represent?

Marjorie L. Swanson
Proud Daughter of One Who Served
Kenosha, WI

Lonna

9:04 AM, November 19, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, here is something on the religious new world order: From a Shiella Samples article in Truthout:

"...In Katherine Yurica's April 7, 2005 report, "Everything You Need to Know About Michael Ledeen," Yurica quotes Ledeen as he clearly lays out a roadmap denizens of the world will be compelled to follow in the new order. Ledeen, Karl Rove's full-time adviser and Pat Robertson's best friend, says the religion within that order will be that of evangelical Christianity.

"Good religion teaches men that politics is the most important enterprise in the eyes of God. Like Moses, Machiavelli wants the law of his state to be seen, and therefore obeyed, as divinely ordered," Ledeen wrote. "The combination of fear of God and fear of punishment - duly carried out with good arms - provides the necessary discipline for good government."

Bernie says Americans have been "psycho-opped" upside the head by guys like Ledeen, Cheney and Rumsfeld until we are senseless. "Somebody oughta tell that creepy Ledeen guy that this isn't Machiaveili's 'state,' and that love and compassion will trump politics in the eyes of God - every time! Where are the freaking Christians?" Bernie bellowed as he headed for the door. Somebody oughta tell that bunch of jackals over at the Pentagon's Murder, Inc. that our founding fathers gave us the necessary discipline for good government - the US Constitution..."

Lonna

9:40 AM, November 19, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Oh, well, Ron, at least you still have all your fans to "love" you. Even, tho, we sometimes get mad at you, we can't seem to resist you for too long. :-)
Did anyone else see John McCain on Letterman last nite? Now, I am sorry that I ever thought that this guy should be Bush's VP if Cheney resigned. I thought that he was decent and that if Kerry liked him, he couldn't be all bad. He did say that special interests have too much control in D.C. and that both parties should work together. I give him kudos for that and for the bill not to torture prisoners. However, he sugarcoated the situations with Delay and Libby and worse yet he said that Bush was a good and honest president who means the best for the American people rather than for the special interests, the rich, and the energy industries. Gah!!! I have lost almost all respect for McCain now. If he kisses Bush's butt any harder he'll never get the brown off his nose!

2:17 PM, November 19, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Lonna, sounds exactly like the kind of guy they love to smear the most. Ya know its too bad these guys are so destructive. They rarely build up...like their idea. they always teardown..like people that challenge them. That's because nothing they do stands on its own merits.
Democat: if you see the breakdown in the polls the rethugs still blindly support bushiveks by about 70 % on any given issue. If McCain hopes to run in 08 he can't be an outcast from the party. I'm thankful for people like him and hagel who will at least fight the power when it comes to war and peace. SOME principles still exist in these guys. I agree on your voter choices. I have to say I would want to hear the debate between hillary/joe biden and either of those guys before I made up my mind. Otherwise I pretty much love the other potential candidates. Kerry, Clark, Boxer even Richardson, while I feel he is actually positioning himself as the moderate candidate for pres or maybe even vice pres. My favorites are Edwards, a true populist and Feingold, the man the most embodies what I think america should strive to be, that is in politics right now.
I could enthusastically support John Kerry without a second thought should he be the nominee.

4:14 PM, November 19, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Protest Update:
We actually had up to 8 people yesterday- getting better. As I say, giant mustard plants grow from tiny seeds. A number of people honked at least once to bring the troops home. We only had one real altercation when a woman whose husband is serving in Iraq stopped to chew us out for not supporting the troops. Lonna will be away visiting family for the holiday, but there are tentative plans to continue the protests for the time she's gone. I think some Roswellites may find WATCHING us do this entertaining. (So little to do here. :-( ) Hopefully, more people will join us. Understand that someone was at the radio station working during the protest, but maybe someday he will be able to drive by us and at least honk to bring the troops ;home. :-)
Also, Game why do so many Bushies think that wanting to protect the environment is evil and unpatriotic? I get many hateful looks for this. In fact, one side of my sign yesterday was about protecting the ANWR and boy did I get some owly looks, esp. from those folks driving their gas hogging SUVs who support drilling in National Parks and oil wars, I guess. Also, Ron, am putting info about the show on my signs. Hope to get more listeners/callers for you that way. SOMEONE has to advertise the show-guess it will have to be the FANS! :-)

3:28 PM, November 20, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Also, Democat likes hugs, cuddling, etc. too and used to enjoy sleeping spoon fashion and loved making out long before she ever learned to enjoy other things. :-)
Sadly, hugs from friends and family are just not the same, but one adjusts. It is a good thing that she loves cats. It will not be so terrible to grow older and grayer with a houseful of them-just not 17 like her best friend has right now!
Also-becoming disillusioned, doesn't mean that a person is cold and unaffectionate, so maybe other people who are disillusioned should not make sarcastic comments about people who have given up on love when they are in the same boat. :-)

3:39 PM, November 20, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

LMAO and major kudos to democat, to quote:

most conservatives are rabid hatemongering war lovin' gun totin' Confederate flag wavin' pick-up drivin' religious wackos who marry their close cousins.

I can't help but laugh my arse off... damn, that's good.

10:40 PM, November 23, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard Ron "crying" about that race car driver's (Danica Patrick?) recent marriage on the show last week. OK, now the truth has finally been revealed-Ron Stevens likes FAST women (especially if they look like Kelly LeBrock)! LOL

3:50 PM, November 26, 2005  

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