Tuesday, October 11, 2005

Coffee Table

And your little dog Toto too. HaHa Ha Ha

75 Comments:

Blogger Ron said...

Rumor is Cheney is in the bullseye. How wonderful would that be. That's far better than Bush in my book.

For the conservatives...something from another website:

"Does anyone else remember when HuffPo broke that Rove was a source? The cons were falling over themselves saying "Nothing here, nothing here, Clinton got head, Kennedy, Hillary, blah, blah, blah.."

We already know what you have to say about it.

7:54 PM, October 11, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

Liar Liar Plame on Fire:

Just a simple fact about the stupidity of the left attacking Rove over Plame....Rove probably didn't even mention her name...but if she was such a secret undercover agent....explain this:

Explain to me how a "super secret CIA agent" agrees to pose for the cover of Vanity Fair magazine with her *husband, the infamous liar Joe Wilson - to promote his book? Only in Washington, D.C. would this pass for a "scandal". Everybody knew Plame was stand down CIA. Certainly not worse than Sandy Burglar stuffing handfuls of secret documents down his Jockeys.

No matter what happens, this is much ado about nothing. So don't waste my time with this, libbies. It's just more evidence of the left playing "gotcha" to avoid actually doing anything productive for this country.

Actual copy from Vanity Fair, January 2004. "The photograph, by Jonas Karlsson, was taken Nov. 8 and "styled by" Ann Caruso. Hair, makeup, and grooming by Terri Grauel for T.H.E. Artist Agency." Unlike my critics, I use real sources, not partisan hack sites.

*"For starters, he has insisted that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, was not the one who came up with the brilliant idea that the agency send him to Niger to investigate whether Saddam Hussein had been attempting to acquire uranium. "Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson says in his book. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip." In fact, the Senate panel found, she was the one who got him that assignment. The panel even found a memo by her. (She should have thought to use disappearing ink.)" - Nation Review

Joe Wilson is slime....his wife is slime...yet they get treated like royalty. He filed a false report...FACT...Meanwhile....the media makes Rove out to be the devil over....what was it again? Saying that Joe Wilsons wife got him the job??? Think Vanity Fair covered that one.



Just incase any libs want to say Wilson and Plame did nothing wrong...here is some information from the liberal Washington Post

Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, dispatched by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq sought to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program with uranium from Africa, was specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly.

The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address.

9:30 PM, October 11, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

Try and focus and just talk about what is presented here...facts from two liberal sources...you should like that...

whatever donkey says will be flat out retarded...so does anyone intelligent have anything to say about THIS information.

9:32 PM, October 11, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

"Nothing here, nothing here, Clinton got head, Kennedy, Hillary, blah, blah, blah.."

10:15 PM, October 11, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

first of all it was the cia who asked for the investigation and the justice department who set up the special prosecutor. I guess they thought she might be undercover. As to the rest like confirming uraninum etc. I don't know where you got it but most of it is either wrong or lies or attempted rewrite of history. sorry buddy. believe it if you wish but its not true.

See how everyone who challenges the administration turns out to be slimeballs, of questionable repute etc??????
Many, dare I say most, have seen through it and find those arguements quite ineffectual. Its just standard procedure.

10:21 PM, October 11, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

The lame game is a slimy coward. Why did the game decide he would never serve in the military? The lame game needs to learn the difference between the words times and post. It is sad the game can not tell what is a news report and what is an editorial. The Donkey has pity for the lame game. It must have been hard for him as a child.
The Washington Times EDITORIAL

11:05 PM, October 11, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Plagiarism refers to the use of another's information, language, or writing, when done without proper acknowledgment of the original source. Essential to an act of plagiarism is an element of dishonesty in attempting to pass off the plagiarised work as original. Plagiarism is not necessarily the same as copyright infringement, which occurs when one violates copyright law. Like most terms from the area of intellectual property, plagiarism is a concept of the modern age and not really applicable to medieval or ancient works. An example of plagiarism would be copying this definition and pasting straight into a report.

Why does the lame game resort to plagiarism? So many bloggers do it, it is hard for the Donkey to track down a story.

12:14 AM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

False statements, obstruction of justice or violations of the Espionage Act involving the release of classified government information to unauthorized persons, it is just a matter of weeks before this spills out. The traitors will be caught, at least most of them.

12:47 AM, October 12, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was once 2 Friends who met in the 50"s and have been butt fuc*ing buddies ever since , there was Artichoke (which involved Anthrax) in the 50's and 60's ,then Nixon, then H.W. and Now 9/11 and those Mysterious Anthrax Letters who sent them and why did they stop? Well just with the Fake War Games on 9/11 I think we can all agree all The Roads are Long and Winding BUT They don't lead to St Johns Wood (Paul's house) , But straight to DICK CHENEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

5:39 AM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

What I posted is the findings from the CIA investigation...I know I am right because you are getting so mad.

You couldn't even comment on the fact that Plame was pictured in Vanity Fair while she was suppoe to be "undercover."

You have no case once again...Wilson was caught lying..so yes, he is a shit head.

6:16 AM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

It was not a CIA investigation. The game should read the material he steal s before he posts it as his own.

6:44 AM, October 12, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Wah!! Ron, The Game called us Libs. If he's gonna call us names and Joe Wilson and his wife slime are you gonna lecture him on civility?
Seriously, Game, go look up the word Liberal which we have defined for you several times. It is a GOOD thing to be a Liberal.
If you insist on being the opposite then you are saying it's better to be stingy, narrow minded, against any kind of progress or reforms, and that you support taking away our civil liberties (Patriot Act). I suspect you are far more Liberal, yourself, than you are willing to admit.
Ron, I second your opinion on Cheney and I want Rove out because, in MY opinion, HE, not the Wilsons, is slime.

2:23 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

it is a story about the CIA findings...

still no one can say anything of substance...

4:35 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

"still no one can say anything of substance"

Do not be so hard on your self lame game.

The CIA does not issue findings. There was not a CIA investigation in to the betrayal. Does not the game even read the garbage he steals?

4:42 PM, October 12, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well thanks a Lot Ron you really proved yourself to both me and my huusband and showed your true colours
Fuck You


Linda and Bruce

4:54 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

"Wolf Blitzer: But the other argument that's been made against you is that you've sought to capitalize on this extravaganza, having that photo shoot with your wife, who was a clandestine officer of the CIA, and that you've tried to enrich yourself writing this book and all of that.
What do you make of those accusations, which are serious accusations, as you know, that have been leveled against you.

Joe Wilson: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."

"The federal code says the agent must have operated outside the United States within the previous five years. But Plame gave up her role as a covert agent nine years before the Rove interview, according to New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof.
Kristof said the CIA brought Plame back to Washington in 1994 because the agency suspected her undercover security had been compromised by turncoat spy Aldrich Ames."

from the Washington Times:

"A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee.
"She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.

"Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this.”

So was she an undercover agent when she was in Vanity Fair...no one has answered that yet.

6:47 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

One more thing...when is that draft happening that I"m sure you guys all predicted would happen if Bush won in 2004?

6:49 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger Jim said...

Game,

You are missing some very important facts that destroys your entire Vanity Fair rant.

Novak outed Plame on June 13, 2003. Your Vanity Fair article is from the January 2004 issue and you note the photo was taken November 8, 2003. So I would say it stands to reason her identity and previous undercover status was pretty much blasted over the entire universe by then.

Also this from the Senate Intelligence report:

According to p. 54 of the Senate report, the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency told Senator Kyl that the CIA did not agree with the British view that Iraq was trying to acquire uranium. On October 6, 2002 CIA Director Tenet called Deputy National Security Advisor Hadley and warned him not to use the information in a Presidential speech alleging that Iraq was trying to acquire uranium. Hadley had the passage removed from the speech (p. 56).

7:10 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Why are you too good to serve, lame game?

8:27 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

You seen to have a point on timing...but what about the interview...the fact that EVERYONE she knew understood that she was an "undercover" FBI agent.

8:41 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger Jim said...

Game: Joe Wilson: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.

In other words, Plame was no longer under cover once Novak blew her cover.

Game: The federal code says the agent.... You are citing the 1982 code about divulging the name of a covert agent. It has become pretty clear that this charge won't be made because of the narrow definitions in the law. Nobody will be charged under this law.

But the Republic talking points keep referring to this law in order to frame the "charge" as bogus. However, the actual charges most likely will be related to divulging information from a top secret State Department memo which identified Plame by her maiden name.

9:36 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

It seems to me that if ANYONE is to blame for anything it is Novak...Rove just seemed to have found out about it third hand...didn't even know her name.

10:07 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

After hearing a veteran speak on the radio today, The donkey also heard this song.

huey lewis & the news lyrics

"Taught me how to shoot to kill
A specialist with a deadly skill
A skill I needed to have to be a survivor
It’s over now or so they say
Well, sometimes, it don’t turn out that way
Cause your never the same when you’ve been under fire

Don’t you know me I’m the boy next door
The one you find so easy to ignore
Is that what I was fighting for?
Walking on a thin line
Straight off the front line
Labeled as freaks loose on the streets of the city
Walking on a thin line
Straight off the front line
Take a look at my face, see what it’s doing to me"

What happened to free speach zone? The man did not break any of the show's stated rules. Ron called him boring and hung up on him.

10:14 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Donkey, he also said nothing the general public was interested in. I allowed him time to slam me and didn't argue with him. I thought that was quite gracious. If he would like to call I'll give him his own segment if he wants I don't care. I just want the program to be interesting to people. The Idea he thinks I or anybody else in town is a bastard or something is not real interesting in my estimation. If I am wrong let me know. I just see someone trying to play a victim and my patience for that is admittedly thin.

10:54 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

by the way, I didnt hang up on him.

10:55 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Game, If there was "nothing to see here" the CIA wouldn't have asked for and John Ashcroft would not have granted a grand jury investigation. There was no yellow cake and the document was phoney as a 3 dollar bill. Joe said he didn't think there was a yellow cake sale. That makes him right, not a liar.

The IAEA continually said throughout that the idea of weapons of mass destruction was questionable at best. Now their director and the group have won the nobel peace prize. Ahh but those guys are just a bunch of liberal wackos I guess.

11:04 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

I'm wondering what people will think if it turns out some of these people "lied under oath". What do we tell our children?

11:07 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Ron,
It sounded like you did hang up on him. The Donkey believes you that it did not happen. We heard the same words yet the Donkey did not hear him as playing a victim. I also heard you argue with him, not that argueing is a sin. The man was saying things that you were not picking up on. Part of that is his fault for not stating things more clearly.

The Donkey has problems with what he says. The donkey does not agree with much of what he says. The Donkey still owes this man and the thousands like him a debt of gratitude and respect for their sacrifice. The Donkey will always recognize he has given far more than most.

It may not matter because of this:

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Prominent US preacher Pat Robertson said that recent natural disasters around the world point to the end of the world and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.

Has any one told Bush to speed up the nomination of Meirs? Maybe we can bring the troops home since there will not time for democracy to spring out of blood soaked sand. Maybe the traitors will not get to serve all their prison sentences and will get sent straight to hell. Will the game have enough time to grow a brain?

11:54 PM, October 12, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

White House Iraq Group (WHIG) will be in the news for months.

SEC Issues Subpoena To Frist. Frist did nothing. Ask the game.

12:21 AM, October 13, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

Don't worry Ron, we will always have a President who lied under oath and was impeached...we don't need anymore.

Remember, lying is when you knowingly say something you know to be untrue...not that you say something that ends up being wrong.

6:30 AM, October 13, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

I was listening and I thought that Maniac hung up on Ron after he said that Ron NEVER says anything interesting. (I think Maniac is being too hard on Ron and told him so.)
I agree with Donkey that veterans should be treated with respect and that everyone should have a voice as long as they don't slander other callers or the station's management, etc.
However, Ron had a valid point when he stated that the show's purpose is to discuss our postions on the issues/possible solutions and to provide information.
Linda and Maniac are my friends, but I like Ron, too. Plus, his show is our ONLY forum in Bush Country. We have to think about the greater good. Other than that, I'm gonna try to stay neutral.
Peace!

2:43 PM, October 13, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Game,
Maybe the draft is happening when we invade Iran or Syria. I guess that since the GOP wants to win big in the '06 election, it can't happen until after 11/06.

2:46 PM, October 13, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

By the way, Ron, what is it with your "Wizard of Oz" quote? I guess, I don't always get your sense of humor. If one is going to quote children's stories in relation to Cheney, etc. why not "Alice in Wonderland" as in "Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" everything is backwards and just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser (like w/ Bush and Co. Hate is Love/War is Peace, etc?) If this is too Orwellian for The Game, c'est la vie).
Howard Dean was on Letterman last night-really good!
Highlights:
Said Democratic Party needs a backbone transplant (as a doctor he knows this)
Said BEST thing Bush did was to unite America after 9/11 (everything has gone downhill afterward)
Said Bush's legacy will probably be that he has divided us as a nation (W's BIGGEST FAILURE)
Also, Bush failures incl. war, deficit, dishonesty in government, Katrina response, health care, and environmental policy
Wouldn't speculate about '08 Presidential candidates, but feels that American PEOPLE ready for female and/or minority President
Discussed global warming (sudden infusion of fresh water raising ocean levels, reversing Gulf Stream, warming equator regions, and possibly causing new Ice Age in the North
Also, positive about Miers' qualifications, but says we need to learn more about her.

3:08 PM, October 13, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Also, to The Game:
How will Bush's white supremecist supporters handle it if Condi Rice gets the GOP nomination in '08? I think their heads might explode.

3:16 PM, October 13, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

democat falling beck into the stench of stupidity...actually I feel dirty even responding to it...I will not go take a shower....WITH WHITE SOAP

3:38 PM, October 13, 2005  
Anonymous diane marie said...

Game: Do not know you and do not care to---you are in total denial of reality---in furtherance---democat has more brains in her ??? than you have in your head!!! Sorry you can't come up with any facts to insult her---so you claim she is stupid??? Have you looked in your mirror today??? AHHH---now there's STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8:08 PM, October 13, 2005  
Anonymous diane marie said...

Was not listening to show on 10/12/05. Must only defer judgement on everyone's separate perception of what may or may not have occurred. Feel bad that linda and maniac are not calling in to show, they have a truthful sense and character about them and they bring information to the show which otherwise may not be heard elsewhere...I respect Bruce's service to this country and feel he cares more about the horrors we are living through than most people...he has a unique way of scripting himself and I for one miss both him and his mrs. Ron, have discussed this issue in past with you---it is a dis-service to an advertised free speech zone to allow maniac to depart on the terms which have occurred as of recent...time to make amends and keep peace---for now the station is a forum as such for free speech---to a point, however in the future it may be in rec of competition---be it on the local or on the national level---as democat feels we all need an alpha-in terms of the show, whether you like it or not that is what you have become, there are more listeners out there than callers---beware and keep the peace...please take this advice in a positive sense and not in the negative...

8:18 PM, October 13, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

How will Bush's white supremecist supporters handle it if Condi Rice gets the GOP nomination in '08? I think their heads might explode.....STUPID

9:32 PM, October 13, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Um, I'm not getting you, Game. Are you saying the white supremecists are STUPID? Gotta agree with you on that one. They're EVIL, too.
If not, how do you think they'd react if they had to choose between voting for a BLACK WOMAN (both Black/Woman would be horrible
to THEM) or a Democrat?
I guess, they could vote Libertarian or maybe not vote at all, which considering the IQs of most of those pickup drivin' Confederate flag wavin' gun totin' rednecks would probably be a blessing.

2:37 PM, October 14, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Diane,
Thank you for your comments. You have more brains in your little toe than anyone who can still support Bush after all he and PNAC have done to destroy America, Land That I Love! You're a great friend.
Also, agree with you re: Bruce and Linda, but don't forget... We get to air OUR opinions because Ron doesn't screen us out on HIS show which is aired on J.D.'s STATION (he made a point of letting everyone know it is HIS STATION like we didn't know that) and that J.D. can't finance the show without the sponsors which in Roswell are almost certainly conservative Republicans. But, on the other hand, both J.S. and the sponsors should consider that the money of Liberals spends just as easily and cater to the Liberal listeners as this is the ONLY local show that allows Liberals on the air, and thus J.D. currently has a corner on that market and should not alienate it. Also ADVERTISE THE SHOW!!!
Linda and Maniac should keep in mind that those of us who supposedly are kissing Ron's derriere have defended THEM in the past. I was awfully mean to Ron, myself and am not going to do it again. Also, I KNOW Linda is SMART, but I wish she'd come up with some new material for those bloggers who don't know her and will be inclined to wonder if her vocabulary is limited because she keeps using the "F" word so much of the time. I don't want them to misjudge her.

2:53 PM, October 14, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

In what way has Democat sunk into the depths of stupidity again? Is The Game refering to her "Alice In Wonderland" thing? Why does The Game take everything so seriously? Doesn't The Game have a sense of humor?
Maybe it's about Howard Dean. She reported on that for people who didn't watch Letterman that night. Why does The Game think it's stupid for Democat to post information? Democat didn't vote for Dean because she thought his anti-war position would alienate the swing voters (also Kerry is Democat's idol), but she was 100% behind Dean being chairman of the DNC. Why does The Game want to name call with her just because she is LOYAL to her own Party?
Democat has tried to be more civil to The Game lately because that is what Ron wants us to do. It seems that The Game only likes Democat's posts when she agrees with HIM! Does Game want to fight with Democat? Did he forget that she still has all her claws? I'm not sure GAME can take it. Meowww! Hisss!!

3:07 PM, October 14, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Also, Game, I posted 3 questions for you on YOUR part of this blog.

3:24 PM, October 14, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Also:
Re: "The Wizard of Oz" and how it relates to Cheney, etc.
Bush would ask the Wizard for a brain.
Cheney would ask for a heart*.
Congress, esp. GOP, should ask for the courage to stand up to Delay.
*
If I haven't said it before and even if I have...
The issue in this last election should not have been John Kerry's purple hearts, but Dick Cheney's heart of stone!!

3:33 PM, October 14, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

for the THIRD time...your stupid comment was:

How will Bush's white supremecist supporters handle it if Condi Rice gets the GOP nomination in '08? I think their heads might explode

3:47 PM, October 14, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

I answered your sex ed question

3:51 PM, October 14, 2005  
Anonymous writer said...

It was great to hear Virginia call into the show today. Thanks democat for mentioning the body language segment from one of today's cnn's clips. Amazing!!! Body language speaks more than a million words, all of our opinions are being confirmed day by day and by his own comrades no less wow---talk about seeing the light...hopefully this will not be the only segment discussing this matter...have a nice weekend bloggers...writer

8:50 PM, October 14, 2005  
Anonymous writer said...

democat: don't fret, for the game thinks Bush's body language is a class on sex ed---how scary is that??? For up until that point in blog, nothing ---absolutely nothing was indicative of "sex ed"---democat, i think it is time for you to stop blogging with game---he's not all there, he's not there at all...writer

8:54 PM, October 14, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

writer, your an idiot, you have no idea what you are talking about...

Democat...I would like to talk more about that issue, because I think we probably agree....

The writer must be another lib who didn't take his/her meds..
or
you were one of the sissy liberal kids in school who got a doctors note to not be in PE and had to have your daddy call the school to get your grades changed...so you probably can't follow logic:

but I'll try to explain....

DC said: Also, Game, I posted 3 questions for you on YOUR part of this blog.

I said: I answered your sex ed question ...which was one of her questions...

stick to things you understand...which is nothing

9:42 PM, October 14, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Game,
Please do not insult Writer who is my best friend and who is VERY intelligent and educated. She probably didn't know the sex ed question was in the The Game section of the blog.
Thanks for clearing up the issue of the stupidity comment. (3rd times the charm?) It was a joke. Maybe not a good one, but still a joke. Where is your sense of humor? How do YOU think the Klansmen and the Aryans would deal with Condi as their candidate? Embrace her with open arms?
Thanks for answering the sex ed question, but what do you think about the standardized testing issue? As a teacher, you are in a position to offer lots of info and insight about education issues.
Also, I hated P.E. with a passion and I did get an excuse to get out of it for a year. Why do coaches allow kids to pick on unathletic students?

4:00 PM, October 15, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Shouldn't have included Maniac in one of my last posts. He's been pretty understanding, but looks like Linda's decided to forgive ME at least. Good to know.
Re: my other comment on her. Well, I just don't think we ladies need to sink to the same level as the GUYS on this blog and use the "F" word.
Lest you think I'm a goody two shoes, I will admit to using that word many times since Dubya stole the first election, but am trying to break myself of that bad habit. Some words of wisdom on this, tho, for those who still think I'm a goody two shoes...
"It's better to do it than to say it."

4:09 PM, October 15, 2005  
Anonymous writer said...

Thanks democat for defending me to the game, however, I really do not care what HE thinks of me...and yes, I too got out of gym class, but it was with my own hand written note!!! The game seems to think that everyone who disses on him for one thing or another is an idiot, well he should look in the mirror...when you project negative opinions like such onto others, you usually see yourself in that light...I hope he can work on self improvement through this blog since he likes to chat with soooooooomany libs...and by the way I was sitting chairperson for the liberal party of nys for 4 years and wouldn't trade that title, nor that time period in for one different ever...democat beware of playing games with the game---it may not be good for your health...take care

6:32 PM, October 15, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Again, I am in favor of all, Bruce, Linda, Game, Democat, Donkey, Dedanna, Writer, Lonna, Jim and all. Guess what, we are ALL Americans and we are all in this thing together. I hope as we go along we continue to have spirited debate and especially a search for the things we have in common and what really is best for all of America.

9:45 PM, October 15, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

No child left behind has its good points and bad points.

It is good to force teachers and schools to be accountable. Sorry, but because of tenure many teachers are lazy and don't want to put in the extra work...but now everyone has too.

The problem is that the standards are rediculous...they go all the way up to 100% at some point...no matter how naive or idealistic you are, it is IMPOSSIBLE to get every kid to be "proficient" at every subject.

Standardized testing is needed, but not at the volume we have it at right now. There needs to be some measure..things like portfolios are good, but they do not produce hard, measureable numbers.

This is definately an issue that could be solved by cooperation from the right and left...Bush goes to far on standardized testing and accountability...the left goes to far to say, "let's just throw money at schools and hope everything works out"

12:25 AM, October 16, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Hello lame game, you must have had some very lazy teachers. You were left behind and are still trying to catch up. As Ellen Glasgow once remarked: "He knows so little and knows it so fluently." The donkey supposes he should have some sympathy for your handicap. You are obviously paralyzed from the neck up. Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. If cluelessness were crude oil, your scalp would be crawling with caribou.

1:09 AM, October 16, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Ron:
You should send a copy of that last post to L & B.
Writer: You're welcome. Am not trying to play games with him, but to establish some kind of understanding of where we're both coming from.
Game:
You have a point, but you know that a lot of teachers are teaching to the test. I think that in a lot of cases, there is "cramming" to prepare these kids to take the test, esp. in Title I schools to keep the funding, but are the kids retaining the info? I agree that there should be a variety of assessment techniques, inc. portfolios. A lot of students have test anxiety and get bad grades on tests, so a better way to assess what they have really learned is to look at their daily work, also.
Still think that it would be more helpful to spend some of these testing $$ on classrooms, school libraries, and hiring E.A.s. Can discuss this on The Game section, tho.

3:47 PM, October 16, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

OK, re: the latest on Judith Miller. Uh, excuse me, she went to jail to protect a source she can't remember the name of. Give me a break!
Also, Bush is hailing the vote on the Iraqi Constitution. Well, it's certainly a good thing that the Iraqis went out to vote, but that doesn't mean the Constitution was passed. My understanding of this is that the Sunnis turned out in high numbers and if the vote is no in 3 of the Sunni provinces the Constitution didn't pass and they have to have a new election.

3:51 PM, October 16, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Also, the latest from Minnesota. Talked to Lonna several times this week. All is well and she says the weather is beautiful-warm enough for a weekend camping trip. So far she has escaped "terminal" computer withdrawal (pun intended) from being away from her PC for 2 weeks. She says she is very bored, tho. Has been looking at houses and says the housing market is awful-$100,000 for houses that would go for $30,000 here. She plans to come back by bus and should be back Thursday pm, so will probably call into the show on Fri. am and be back on the blog before then.

3:56 PM, October 16, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Also, noted that Ron didn't respond to my comments about certain words being used on the blog or to my words of wisdom. Guess that means it's OK to be a little risque on the blog now and then. Was Ron shocked, tho? Smile face.

4:00 PM, October 16, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

democat...lets talk about it on "my section"...Ron, can you put up a "game" section once a week...
I like talking there, hopefully we can be saved from listening to the wisdom of the donkey...

I'm definately posting that crap you just spewed here on my blog so everyone can laugh at you some more.

6:18 PM, October 16, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

Well Ron,
I tried to have a debate about abstinence vs comprehensive sex education...different education topics and whatever you were getting at...the open and tolerant liberal way produced this:

The Game has a specific place to post his propaganda? I hope he will answer RON'S questions. He won't answer anyone else's.

I wrote things like:
Democat...that was a GREAT post..I agree with 100% of it...and I am a health teacher..so much of what you said is what I am trying to fix...

then the next post:
The Donkey said...
The Donkey will call the game a coward in this comment line also.

and it continued...

Well, he's teaching Health which could be a problem as that is a science and the Bushies don't believe in Science.


and the rest of the crap that is at the end of the end of "the game" comment line from the "tolerant" left, the side open to ideas and debate...

your plan didn't work Ron, did it...I tried...

10:57 PM, October 16, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

The lame game is posting the same comment in separate threads. The donkey will come up with a different answer to the same post.

Lame game, I'm busy trying to imagine you with a personality. Maybe you'd be less boring once I got to know you, but I don't want to take that chance. Any friend of yours is a lousy judge of character. Seriously, I've come across decomposing dog carcases that are less offensive to the senses than you are. Wouldn't clues have more room to fit in your head if you got rid of some of the gobbledygook in there?

11:46 PM, October 16, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

A couple of days ago my teacher was listening to a radio program about education of the European lowlands. She was very intrigued by the subject, so she axed my friend Don about it, and he interrupted:


"Get out!.. That's amazing! Don't tell me you're into the European lowlands too!"


But then when my teacher got to the part about the education, Don suddenly got this dangerous look in his eyes. And then just now, Don's uncle told me that the reason Don was so freaked out was because he had to study education in class. Occasionally Don can be a little dumb like that, but he kinda loves me...


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The Donkey was trying to post like the game, it did not work.

12:05 AM, October 17, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

donkey:
loving, tolerant...

luckily..this is how the average American sees those on the far left...like the donkey..that is why you lose every election...

That is why John Kerry lost, in part, because his wife was a far left crazy idiot...just like donkey.

Keep it up...with your help, we can keep Republicans in power forever

11:24 AM, October 17, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

To: The Game
I THOUGHT we were having a pretty good discussion on education/sex ed and I enjoyed hearing your views. Seems we can agree on SOME things. I am not sure how it all evolved into a discussion on people's IQs, Master's degrees, etc. I think it's pretty obvious that all of the folks on this blog have high IQs, but are stronger in some of the multiple intelligences than in others (examp. I'm very liguistic but s*ck at math/kinesthetic). I hope Ron gives you another Game one and we can stick to debating social issues on that one.

Re: the Kerrys, though! Hisss! Go read Doug Brinkley's bio of
John Kerry instead of listening to Rush Limbaugh's cr*p or
Ann Coulter (I expected HER to look like a bitter old crone.) who LOVES Joseph McCarthey, according to Lonna. Ye Gods and little fishes! That guy almost makes me ashamed I grew up in Wisconsin. He was a maniac (sorry, Bruce, it's true-smile).
Also, I don't diss Laura, so lay off Teresa, please.

2:55 PM, October 17, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Still no response from Ron, who I expected to laugh over my words of wisdom (or maybe agree considering some of HIS comments on this blog). Evidently, Ron has spent so many lunch hours listening to Michael Medved, nothing shocks him anymore. Democat is curious, though, why is it OK for her to be outrageous, but not OK for Wizard and Odyssey?
Re: today's show.
The good news today is that Condi Rice is not going run for U.S. President, thereby averting the potential head explosions of the white supremecist republicans. Thank goodness for that. It would've made such a mess!
Re: Jude Law as People Magazine's sexiest man alive. Well, OK, he is pretty sexy despite his lack of morals. 'Course (sigh) Brad Pitt is still gorgeous, as is Noah Wyle. Am very surprised that Orlando Bloom or Viggo Mortison didn't get picked.
'Course despite what SOME people think, women find things other than physical appearance sexy (i.e. personality, intelligence, a sense of humor, etc.) A nice voice is a plus. (I confess to having a weakness for Southern accents.)
Sadly, some women think money is sexy (Anna Nicole Smith) and what did Pam Anderson ever see in Tommy Lee? Yuck!!

3:09 PM, October 17, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Ron, what other stations do you DJ on and when? I'm not into Country music and generally switch to KBIM FM as soon as your show is over. Although, I love soft rock and oldies, I like most kinds of music (not rap-that's NOT music) except opera. 'Course I might even listen to THAT if Josh Groban were singing. What a totally awesome voice (and a cutie pie, too. Why isn't HE People's sexiest man?)

3:14 PM, October 17, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Hey Lame Game:

Not being a Nazi does not make the Donkey a leftist. The Donkey knows you do not have the mental capacity to understand this and should feel pity for you. That is not going to happen. Is there anything The Donkey needs to know about you other than you are a grungy social outcast?

Why don't you shrink your head and use it as a paperweight? It's not much use for writing intelligent posts with, that's for sure.Oh well, at least you only charge what your free advice is worth. You bring to mind a quote from Josh Billing: "Doesn't know much, but leads the league in nostril hair."

No doubt your life is so dull, that you can actually write your diary one week in advance. You have the warm personal charm of a millipede and about as much class as a bucket of mucous lodged on top of a dumpster in a Red Light district of New Jersey. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt.

4:10 PM, October 17, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

note:
as of today I will not read donkeys posts...I have to many more important things to do than read that crap..

democat:
It would be wise to understand that Teresa was DEFINATELY one of the reasons Kerry lost...many of my "undecided" friends would always laugh at what she said and how it made her look. Sorry you like her, but you guys will never be in power if you can't see something as obvious as that.

8:01 PM, October 17, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Hey Lame Game;
You are a pure extract of stupid with absolute stupid purity. Stupid beyond the laws of nature. I must apologize. I can't go on. This is my epiphany of stupid. Ignore the posts as the Donkey mocks your moronic opinions and malformed comments about boring Ann hole comments or your other drivel. Duh.

What possessed you to think that you were capable of being entertaining or interesting to read? You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers. The Donkey will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. You are a technicolor yawn.

10:39 PM, October 17, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

democat, the quote was just one of a million things that pop up in my head. I guess I was thinking about Cheney at the time and I got a picture.

12:23 AM, October 18, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Ron,
Well, gah!! If Cheney popped up in your head at the time of THAT quote, no wonder you spaced it. Something like that happening would result in any NORMAL person having a sudden acute attack of nausea. Have noticed that Dedanna, Donkey, and I get away with a lot of fighting with Game, etc. and of course, my naughty comment and I get away with Bush bashing on the show all the time. MY little experiment leads me to conclude that anything goes on the blog and that re: the show some callers might be considered more equal than others. Just a thought.

12:54 PM, October 18, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Game,
The undecided voters YOU know don't necessarily represent the majority of undecided voters. Many people LOVED Teresa Kerry's candor and not all of them were Democrats.
Unfortunately, there are too many misogynistic MCPs out there who can't stand the thought of a woman who has a mind and opinions of her own. Also, the name,Heinz-Kerry, like Rodham-Clinton was an issue for traditionalists. Then, add in the mindset of fundamentalist Christians who believe a wife should submit to her husband's authority and who are who are anti-feminist.
I, for one, admire Teresa greatly. She's highly intelligent,educated, and cultured and does terrific things to benefit society which is why she won that humanitarian award. In addition, if you believe all this cr*p about Teresa funding terrorism and being a leftwing radical, don't forget that she was a liberal Republican until recently. Her late husband,
John Heinz was a Republican senator from PA and if there are factories in India, maybe we can blame him and the board of directors of the Heinz Corp. for this. Teresa is NOT the CEO. She runs the charity endowments and travels all over the world trying to promote better education, environmental protections, the arts, and rights for women and children, among other things. This cr*p about her is the result of the hate mongering fostered by the anal cyst guy who as much as called Chelsea Clinton the family dog. Teresa was a big ASSET to Kerry and if she was still a Republican you can bet your booty that the GOP would've used her to get the women's/environmentalists' vote.
A lot of people diss Laura Bush for being a "Stepford wife". It's a known fact that anytime Laura says anything that would conflict with the conservative agenda (like we should increase funding for the NEA), they shut her up in a hurry. It's sad because I am sure that she is much smarter, better educated, and a more Christian person than the jerks her husband has surrounded himself with. I'd much prefer Laura as President than any of THEM!
Also "Shove it!" doesn't compare to using the "F" word on the Senate floor like you know who did.

1:15 PM, October 18, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Well, OK SHOULD'VE said Laura is much smarter/better educated than her husband. The better Christian part goes without saying. And I stopped believing Barbara Bush's All-American Grandma image long ago. She's raised some pretty screwed up and immoral boys there.
(Daddy Bush was too busy working and having affairs to raise them.)
Also, didja ever think that Clinton might have a preference for a certain kind of sex and Hillary just isn't into that. It doesn't make me think highly of his supposedly feminist views that he likes to have his women on their knees. But, on the other hand, he's obviously a sex addict and needed help. People in the public eye have to be afraid to seek help for things like sex, alcohol, and drug addictions, unfortunately. Too bad there isn't a 12-step program for Bush and Co. and their corrupt business/politics addictions. Still say that Bush's politics and his immoral oil war is far far worse than a stain on a dress. (And was Monica planning to blackmail Bill or was she just pathetic?)

2:15 PM, October 18, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

well the fact of keeping listeners tuned in is a factor on the radio that does not equate to this blog. Most talk shows screen calls to get the ones they want on. No screening here.:-) Yes, business considerations come in to a business situation.

7:13 PM, October 18, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

I like Teresa Kerry too. She was too easy to villify because she was so real. She didn't put on a front. Didn't put on airs. I like the what you see is what you get.

7:21 PM, October 18, 2005  

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