Al Gore
posted by Ron at 10:07 PM
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Hope he runs for president in 2008.
He has become a real statesman. He said before 2000 we should put S.S. money in a lockbox where it could not be borrowed from any more, and if we had not had Bush to push all those tax cuts, maybe we would not be borrowing from it.
He would be good on the envirnment, we know that.
And he is the last person we know was elected president by the vote of the people.
If we would have known what Bush would do in office, we would have never let them get away with stealing Florida. The U.S. would have been much better off under President Gore than President Bush. And the world most likely would not hate or despise us or hold us in contempt.
Another thing.
If Gore had been president when 9/11 happened after all those warnings (and it might not have happened -- HE would have paid attention to the terrorist threat) but IF it had, he would have been impeached.
If he had lied us into war he would have been impeached.
EVEN IF he had gone to war, which is not likely, he would have listened to the military experts and would have done it right.
God, I wish he were president!! Now we know where Roberts stands on assisted suicide.
Maybe he could run with my idol, John Kerry. Both are environmentalists and, in my opinion, BOTH won their elections. Bush has NEVER been MY President and he NEVER will be!!
please please please...
Run Kerry and Gore in 2008..omg please..I'll do anything to have that happen.
Why? Would you vote for them?
LOL.
We may congratulate ourselves that this cruel war is nearing its end. It has cost a vast amount of treasure and blood ... It has indeed been a trying hour for the Republic; but I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless."
President Abraham Lincoln
The Donkeys thoughts on the Gore speech:
American democracy is in grave danger. The Donkey knows this because almost every politcian and candidate has said this for years. No alternate universe here, only stupid people think Saddam was personally responsible for planning and supporting the attack. These same people voted for Bush.
Normal good sense and judgment of our television news media dissapeared long before the OJ trial. We still are routinely torturing helpless prisoners, and The Donkey is outraged by the practice and has ongoing discussions on how to stop it. The bill to stop it is a start.
Is the gap between rich and poor is widening steadily and economic stress is mounting for low-income families? The Donkey knows there is a gap, but who is measuring it? Many citizens are apathetic and lethargic, they have been since there were citizens.
Al Gore seems to forget many Democrats voted to let George get his war on.
There was not a time when America's public discourse was consistently much more vivid, focused and clear. Our Founders were not the most literate generation in all of history. Yes, some used words with astonishing precision and believed in the Rule of Reason.
A small majority had faith in the viability of Representative Democracy rested on their trust in the wisdom of a well-informed citizenry, slaves, and natives did not count. It would be impossibe the public could be well-informed, due the primative communications, no free-flow of knowledge, hardly a trickle.
The values that Americans had brought from Europe to the New World were greed, slavery and control by religion. The "Rule of Reason."is yet to come. Empire of Reason exists in science fiction.
The Donkey could pick apart the rest of Gore's speech, but who would read it. Gore walked away from a election victory. What happened after is part his fault also. In short the Donkey rarely cares what Gore has to say.
Will you go back to your own blog and leave us in peace? Promise and I will start working for a Gore/Kerry ticket right now.
That last was to the Game, of course.
Will you go back to your own blog and leave us in peace? Promise and I will start working for a Gore/Kerry ticket right now.
Well, see, I used to think this, too, but have come to realize, as Ron has (after much prompting), that this is the kind of attitude that keeps our country divided.
The thing is, is I still wrestle with the "how can I agree with anything they do or say"? There is nothing good about anything they do or say.
Well, for now, I've come to a compromise: I'll read Game's posts just for the laughs. lol.
And, I'll take any ticket with the balls behind them to get these PNAC bastards out of here completely.
I'm wondering if Gore/Kerry could honestly pull it off. For some reason, I don't think so...
We need someone new. Fresh. Not party-line. Someone very, very strong. I just don't see anyone like that right now, unfortunately.
Dedanna
Re: your last two posts. Well, I have to agree with Game on some things which you'll see when you see my last post in "the no wolf zone". It's nice to see that he is starting to explain HIS views instead of just posting dittohead propaganda on the blog. This is where we can find common ground in our beliefs and establish some kind of understanding.
Re: new candidates. I like Dean. I like Clark. I like Feingold, and Boxer, and Pelosi, and even Hillary.
We have to have candidates who will appeal to the swing voters. That's why even though, Lieberman is hawkish in his foreign policy (as an orthodox Jew, he's gonna be VERY pro-Israel) I liked the idea of a Kerry-Lieberman ticket thinking the more conservative Lieberman would balance the ticket with the more Liberal Kerry and get the moderate and conservative swing voters, esp. the Jewish folks down in Fla. and Ga. One problem, both Kerry and Lieberman being from NE. The parties try to get someone from North and South or East and West, etc. to balance the ticket.
I still want Kerry. What about a Kerry-Feingold ticket or a Kerry-
Richardson ticket? I like the women I mentioned, but I think we gotta play it safe next time just to get back in power. Hillary doesn't have a chance. The GOP will destroy her with the Whitewater deal.
It's nice to be idealistic and dream, but we gotta be realists, too. That's like Kerry. He realized he couldn't PROVE Bush cheated and what it would do to the country to fight over the vote count during wartime, so he accepted reality and went back to the Senate to get a better legislative record so the GOP couldn't use that against him NEXT time. Dems/Libs need to STOP beating up on their own guy and save that for Bush & Co!
Can someone explain how putting two people who lost to, in your opinion, I retard will get a win for you in 2008? Please don't give me the fixed elections and cheating crap...give me an adult answer.
The game demands an answer. Do not make it too long. He can not pay attention long enough to read long posts. Did the game eat paint chips as a kid?
Game, Nixon tried several times. I wasn't 1 then. Al Gore recieved more votes than George Bush. Kerry was Very close. The world is a different place now. People have drawn new conclusions from new evidence.(At least the ones with a mind that is occasionally opened.) That enough reasons for you?
Game:
Gore won the popular vote in 2000. IF all the votes in Fla. had been counted, he would've won the electral vote, too. It is a little too suspicious that this happened in his brother's state when the latter PROMISED Dubya would win. Also, you teach Black children. Do you feel that it was right to disenfranchise 10,000 Black voters in Fla. in 2000? See if you can find Gregory Palast's article "Florida's Disappeared Voters: Disenfranchised by the GOP" on-line.
We know that there were major problems in Fla. again in 2004 and in Ohio in 2004 where there were huge lines in precincts with mostly BLACK DEMOCRATIC voters who would've voted for Kerry/Edwards. Many of these people had to give up waiting and didn't get to vote because there were not enough voting machines. This is a another way to disenfranchise voters.
I, also, have a friend who used to be a Mormon. Her adult daughter lives in Utah and has a friend who is a Diebold executive and who told her daughter to tell her not to bother to vote for Kerry or work for him because the election was all taken care of. I totally believe that the GOP cheated BOTH times, so neither Gore or Kerry are losers. Bush is dishonorable and took the office TWICE under questionable circumstances. Why do you and other Bushies continue to support cheaters and Ameri-fascists? You are deep in denial.
Besides that, even if Gore did lose it was by 25 electoral votes and if Kerry lost it was by 3,000,000 and during a time of war when Americans were scared to change the Commander in Chief. These were not landslide victories for Bush!
You might, also, put your own political ideology aside and tell me if you get where I was going with my pragmatism because it was about political strategy not whether I was for or against the war. Lieberman is a social liberal and very strong on environmental issues where he and Kerry would be great together. He is popular in Europe and he and his wife are charming where Gore was seen as stiff. They were a BIG asset to the 2000 team. But Dems are horrified by Lieberman for ONE reason-his position on the war. Libs are supposed to be broadminded. Is it broadminded to totally discount a candidate for one thing? You said I'm too emotional, but was this a logical argument or not?
Oops!
Article is "Florida's Disappeared Voters: Disfranchised by the GOP" by Gregory Palast.
www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=27&row=1
Read it with an open mind, Game!
The Game need no longer worry about a Kerry-Gore team, as
Al Gore has decided not to run again. Oh, well. C'est la vie. At least, if they'd run and won we would have had a President who had actually been elected BEFORE regardless of which one was the VP and which was President.
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