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Read the kindness, peace and tolerance affored to one of my friends by a liberal asshole:
Why Mary, how interesting that you have a blog here... hmm...., whose address, phone number and employment history all came up in a public records search!
Keep messing with me (I know you're using the name "Sagace" or whatever) on that site, and I'll be sure to spam this one from time to time. And more - I'll start calling your relatives and telling them you're dead, or whatever else I think up (Yes, the public records list your closest relatives....)
Hurricane Center: Global Warming Equals Fewer Storms
Environmentalists who claim global warming has caused an increase in U.S. hurricane activity obviously haven't checked with the National Hurricane Center, which has kept statistics on major storms over the last 150 years.
That's probably because those statistics yield one inescapable conclusion: If global warming has had any impact at all on hurricane activity, it's lessened - not increased - the frequency of major hurricanes.
From 1901 till 1950 - when the U.S. economy was a fraction of its current size and fossil fuel consumption was next to nil - there were 34 hurricanes rated at Catagory 3, 4 or 5 in size on the Saffir Simpson scale.
In the latter half of the twentieth century - when U.S. manufacturing exploded, automobile use skyrocketed and rampant consumerism was the order of the day, hurricane activity actually decreased by nearly 20 percent, declining to 28 Catagory 3-5 hurricanes from 1951 to 2000.
But I'm sure you all believe a 40 year old woman driving an SUV caused Katrina and Rite, or did Bush cast a magic spell on the south after he was done planting the bombs in the leeves.
Game, incivility rests in liberal and conservative people. Don't dis an ideology for the sake of an asshole.
Actually Game it seems to me that your arguement lends creedence to the HAARP theory considering recent events.
I just like to get you all worked up...
But I do have a big problem with your "why do you hate Americans" arguement. Many, many Americans are sick of free loaders not only living off the government their whole lives, but believing it is a right. I work (and like to) with poor people every day. However, it sickens me to see how our socialistic wellfare state has ruined a whole group of people. (I don't mean blacks if that is what you think, I mean anyone who can't live on thier own). People who have been delt a bad hand, I feel for them and they need help. As for the people who expect a hand out and act uncivil every chance they get...I wouldn't say I hate them, but they make me sick.
Your emotional argument, throwing in Iraq and hating Americans makes you look like the idiot who says the same crap about the Iraq war. Is is a poor argument, and you are better than that.
Game, I agree with about everything you said. I throw in the "why do you hate americans" cuz the right uses that ridicilous arguement all the time. The left doesn't hate america any more than the right does. I do think it is better to spend our money in a huge effort to rehabilitate americans rather than on iraqis moslems who don't share our culture, interests or anything else for that matter. I think how the government spends our money matters and I care.
the game said:
I just like to get you all worked up...
Oh, is that what you do? Didn't realize anyone was paying that much attention to you! lol.
really I am just talking to Ron, he is one of the only ones who isn't insane here.
I might agree with you on the Iraq money thing...but I don't think just throwing money at poor people changes anything.
We have become more and more socialist since the 60's and the same number of people are poor. It takes a change in attitude, in personal responsibility...and yes, that is very hard...no easy answers.
More and more jobs have been outsourced out of the country since the 60s,too. Most of the jobs that have been created are service industry jobs that are low wage, part-time, and with no benefits. Some are temporary. Having a vocational/college education doesn't guarantee one a job, either. Many of the data entry/computer jobs have been outsourced, too. Instead of cutting the salaries of the CEOs, middle management/office jobs were cut and those personnel who remained and who were working on salary rather than recieving an hourly wage had their hours increased so they basically are working constantly.
Supposedly, there isn't supposed to be discrimination based on age, gender, race, ethnicity, religion, etc. Hello! We still need affirmative action, especially now that the white supremecists have gotten the idea that they can fix elections in Fla. and Ohio to get THEIR candidate (Bush) into office TWICE. Also, try being a displaced homemaker who has stayed home to raise children and been out of the workforce for ten years or more. Pretty tough to find a job with no recent work history. A lot of the unemployed who don't get counted have given up looking. There is a surplus of labor esp. for unskilled work and you better believe that if they can hire an immigrant, a kid, or someone else who will work for less, they will. Not that it's all the corporations' fault when you consider that health care is so expensive that they can't afford to insure their workers. And of course, the health care/pharmaceutical industries/HMOs donate big bucks to the GOP, don't they?
Plus, the Republican Religious Right that is so against birth control, as well as abortion, will succeed in making sure there is a huge poorly educated workforce so we have an even bigger surplus of labor. Competition for jobs results in lower wages and no benefits. Read "The Grapes of Wrath", Game!
I have...
The same old questions to the Game. Why are you not in Iraq? Are you too good to join the military? Why do you encourage young people you work with to go to Iraq, when you will not go?
In other words, Why you such a coward?
Game, I agree with you that we should not support people who are able but WONT work. They need to grow up and learn this whole thing works better if we all contribute. (oops that sounds kinda socialist doesnt it!:-)It, as has been shown above, is a bit more complicated than a slogan. This is really what kind of bothers me when debating conservatives. It is always so simplistic and packaged tidy. Most things are far more complicated than the right pretends it to be. Same goes for the "liberal media" thing. It's to simplistic to parse a few semantics and say its a liberal media.I would love to have a disscussion with a conservative or a liberal on solutions to problems. Ideas and how to make things better. Neither side seems to want to do that. Look at most any blog and see how many people you find trying to make things better and how many people you find just bitching. The bitching wins hands down. I fear it is people find it work instead of inspiration to think. The media then has to keep everything simplistic to sell their product. This is the way the country turns today. It saddens me that no one wants to work together for solutions and have pride from both sides about what we have created. Right now I find the whole thing an embarrassment.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a utopian society where everyone could make a difference and contribute because it wasn't all about competition and high profits? Too bad life isn't like a kibbutz or a commune where everyone works together doing what they can, so age, gender, disability, and work experience don't matter. Wouldn't it be nice to have a society where resources are shared EQUALLY which is what God intended, instead of fighting and scrambling over them, and the rich hogging 75% of the pie for themselves. The Game must not have gotten a lot out of reading "The Grapes of Wrath". Maybe he should read it again-with an open mind this time.
Psuedo-Socialist
Well said Ron and anonymous,
It is not simple...I said that.
People that can work and don't ruin the system. People want to help the poor, but get discouraged when they see free-loaders and con artists. Many people are quitting at the Wisconsin State Fair right now...because the people from New Orleans that are still there are people that force others to hate them.
All the hard working, honorable people have left. All that are left are people who have sex in the hall, get arrested for assult, steal and do drugs.
Sometimes it is hard to distinguish between people who need help and people who expect it and make it a way of life.
about media bias:
Nearly three times as many of those polled in a new Gallup survey said they believe the media are “too liberal” than “too conservative.” Gallup's Tuesday press release for the poll, which is earning publicity for how it found that “trust and confidence in the news media is up” from last year, reported: “When asked about the news media's political slant, Americans are much more likely to say they are too liberal (46%) than they are to say they are about right (37%) or too conservative (16%). Those views are consistent with what Gallup has measured since 2001. The percentage of Americans saying the news media are too liberal has ranged between 45% and 48%, and has always been the plurality response. There has been a slight increase in the public's sentiment that the media are too conservative, from 11% in 2001 to 16% today.”
Last year, 48 percent saw the media as “too liberal” compared to 15 percent who thought the media were “too conservative.” Given the plus/minus three percent margin of error, the numbers are essentially unchanged from last September. More results follow.
Nearly three times as many of those polled in a new Gallup survey said they believe the media are “too liberal” than “too conservative.”
Well duhhhhhh! I wonder why that would be? Maybe making liberal media basically one word. Repeating it ad nauseum or the conscious demeaning of the term in the first place?
Game, I understand what you are saying. It's kind of a natural weeding out of the whole society.Looks like we may have determined who the bad ones are. Unfortunately that means they need help the most because they are the ones that need to learn a whole new way of living. We somehow must convince them that there is something more rewarding for their life. Would you agree?
Lame Game;
Why do are you too good to join the military?
It is a simple question. When did you become a coward?
I have noticed that The Game is not willing to answer most or any questions posed to him by people on this blog. As for your question, Donkey, well, should we expect The Game to be any different from the dittohead warhawks who are running this country, or serving as the latter's mouthpieces? You know, the ones who used bogus medical excuses (i.e. anal cysts), etc. to get out of serving or family connections to avoid combat while the sons of farmers, factory workers, teachers, shopkeepers, etc. got sent over to Vietnam, etc. Even The Game must know who I'm talking about.
I am way to smart to answer your completely retarded comments...I will talk to Ron if he wants to, because he tries to make a point using some sort of thought system (even if he is wrong)...just saying stupid crap that doesn't usually make sense is not worth my time. Just keep sitting in your obscurity.
Hello Lame Game:
You posted " I am way to smart to answer your completely retarded comments.."
The Donkey suggests the Lame Game learn the meanings of question, answer and comments. Your post is an answer in response to a question. The Donkey knows cowards do not like to be called cowards. Cowards avoid answering questions. Cowards tend to get very angry and write brave words from behind a keyboard.
The lame Game also posted "...just saying stupid crap that doesn't usually make sense is not worth my time. " You need to stop doing that then. How do you find your way to work every morning? Does your mother drive you? Has she ever said you are "special"?
To: The Game
Oh, bite me!! On second thought,don't. I'd probably get rabies or something from a mad dog like you. Go back to the no wolf zone (i.e. your blog) and stop sucking up to OUR "alpha".
Ron isn't usually wrong (except about smoking in public places, for example) and as I graduated from a Jr. college with honors, I find it extremely offensive that you would call my comments retarded. You just won't accept any viewpoint that doesn't correspond with yours. It's obvious you aren't a Liberal because Liberals are BROADMINDED. Take some sociology and political science classes and broaden your horizens.
I believe the game's "retarded" comments were directed towards the old and tired one comment that a certain person keeps making... the "go to iraq" one... and yes, it's getting VERY old...
The words Enlist and support the troops are fresh in the Donkey's mind. The Donkey is reminded daily of what the troops are going through. The Donkey read this just today:
"Now, all of the Marines assigned to the 1st Squad, 3rd Platoon, Lima Company, 3rd Battalion, 25th Regiment, based in Columbus, Ohio, are gone — except Williams. They died in a roadside-bomb set by insurgents on Aug. 3 that killed a total of 14 Marines. Most of the squad were in their early 20s; the youngest was 19."
As long as there are troops in Iraq and Afgansitan, The Donkey will enourage the game and Mark to enlist. It is easy to be cheering on from a safe distance. Cowards do not like to be called cowards. The Donkey does not care what cowards think, only what they do.
WEll, OK, Dedanna, it just seemed to me that it was directed at me due to my comments on the warmongering Bushies who are so in favor of the war in Iraq, yet refused to go to Vietnam themselves.
What I would like to know is who The Game thinks he can convert to his viewpoint on this blog? Mark? Average Joe and Axle are gone, apparently. The rest of us are Liberals despite having some views that are considered conservative. We're not going to swallow this ultra-righwing cr*p from Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, etc.
Ron is a nice guy and being a Liberal, he's broadminded enough to allow the other side to have its say and have a real debate on this blog. The Game says he has his own blog, so why must he spend so much time on this one? Can someone explain this to me? Also, I will defend myself, The Donkey, Ron, Lonna, and even you, Dedanna, so keep that in mind.
To The Game,
You say you teach poor children all day and coach after school. One would think you would have found something positive to report about people who live in the inner city. Why does everything you say have to be so negative? Haven´t you seen these people doing anything to improve their circumstances you could post on your blog and Ron´s blog? Are there people who trade childcare so that they can work or go to school? Has anyone started a neighborhood watch program esp. to get rid of drug dealers? Are there people who work to clean up their neighborhoods? Are there people who have found legal ways to supplement their incomes? Check it out and report back to us.
As I would you, any day of the week.
It just seems like that's what he was doing, was attacking the one comment...
Again, on the outside looking in.
I have nothing at all against you! I enjoy your posts! Keep it up! :)
Oh, sorry, the above was for Democat. :)
Thanks, Dedanna!
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