Monday, September 19, 2005

Looking For Answers

Concerning the "Time to come together" post below:

First I think we need to understand that it is ok to be conservative in some areas. Economics is certainly an area. Being properly polite and humble(at one time this was a conservative virtue) is another. It should also be understood that it is good to be liberal. Especially when it comes to personal freedom and liberty. Those rights should be dispensed liberally.
Now some thoughts on how to make America strong again. First we must agree that government is there as a tool organized of the people, by the people and for the people. Then this tool should be used only for the common good. What does that mean in the Gulf Coast rebuilding. It means jobs go to local or regional companies with local or regional workers so free enterprise gets a real chance to flourish. It means that these situations where taxpayer money is used that there is honest oversight on the money spent. It means that it is done as economically as possible while at the same time making sure that the future is safe and environmentally sound. It means that people are paid a wage that helps them recover. That the work they do is something they can take pride in when they are finished. It means we look for the newest and best science and technology to get the job done and use an overall model that will make the cities less dependent on fossil fuels and more on advanced technology. And it means, even if it costs a bit more, that we use American made products and resources to the largest extent possible. If this gets done by the money grabbers and muli national corporations we will continue to have pain and bickering. If this project is done with Americans, for Americans, it will be something we can all be proud of and something that could provide a boost to our country now and in the future.


Blogger The Game said...

side some of your posts lately at my site...when you keep on message and don't spew out typical liberal talking points..its good stuff..

I am still looking for you solutions on some of the issues though...

11:15 PM, September 19, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

#1 We have to keep talking about the TRUTH because it is out there even if the so called liberal media and The Game's blog don't want people to know what the truth is. Talking includes writing because as we all know the pen (or keyboard) is mightier than the sword.
#2 We have to be ACTIVELY involved, writing to our representatives, signing petitions, etc. and VOTING!!!
#3 I still think the pay it forward idea for convincing people to register to vote would be neat if it worked. Only a fraction of the people eligible to vote actually do so. Also, convince other people to get involved and to learn about politics, especially young people. They are the future of this country/world, but if PNAC has its way, only the children of the rich will have a future.
Whatever happened to idealism? I love Harry Chapin's song "She is Always 17." because it is about youthful idealism.The young people of the 50s/60s/70s are largely responsible for the civil rights movement, rights for women/gays/the disabled, and environmental protections.
Too many of today's youth are apathetic and/or brainwashed into being Republican because their parents/ministers/teachers are, and because it's not POPULAR to be a Democrat. Well, duh! Bush's popularity is in the toilet. It's not POPULAR to approve of Bush now-right? Besides that, I thought kids liked to rebel against their parents. You'd think it would encourage them to become liberal Democrats if their parents are Republican conservatives.

3:55 PM, September 20, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

I am sure the Games blog is #1 in Basra. The morale would just collaspe if not for the game.

10:20 PM, September 20, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

The Donkey may be right. Good one.

5:45 PM, September 21, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

I still think the pay it forward idea for convincing people to register to vote would be neat if it worked.

1) NO ONE will register to, or vote unless there is someone to vote for...

2) NO ONE will register to, or vote until they know that their votes will actually count.

We have to keep talking about the TRUTH

Who the hell knows what the truth about anything is any more?

We have to be ACTIVELY involved Sure, so the PNAC bastards can rape us of it all...

I'm ssoooo positively thinking, aren't I?


6:22 PM, September 21, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are right about voter apathy. I'm just trying to think positively and like Ron suggests come up with some kind of suggestions for what we can or could do. It probably wouldn't work, esp. where I live where registered Dems are almost equal to registered Repubs. Problem is that we can't convince the former to get their butts out and vote. (sad face) We gotta brainstorm, tho.

2:24 PM, September 22, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

I'm not complaining about voter apathy. I think it's the best thing that can happen.

Vote for NO ONE we deem qualified, and maybe *someone somewhere* will get up off their arses and put someone out there worth voting for. Until then, they can all blow, far as I'm concerned. I'm not voting for a doggone thing. I don't have to. And don't go telling me that if I don't vote, I have no right to say-so in anything.

I believe a thing called "Freedom of Speech" guarantees that I can complain, dissent, say what I want, think what I want. Until GWB takes it completely and totally away (and I'm sure he will), I plan on using it.

7:27 AM, September 23, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Well OK, I see your point, and I do see that you believe in dissent, freedom of speech, and all that. That's good. The Revolution can start with one person and grow (like a giant tree from a tiny mustard seed). If we make enough noise and get our Democratic, Independent, and Green, and whatever Republicans are willing to follow us, we will have someone to vote for. Guess we have to remind these folks who they're working for-us not the giant corporations.
I do wish my hero, Kerry, would come out and talk to the protesters (and Ted Kennedy, too.) The Senators/Reps. did it for Kerry during Vietnam. I think I will email him and remind him of this little fact.

5:08 PM, September 24, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Sorry, as good as some think he is, we definitely need someone with a LOT more spine than Kerry. And, a LOT more fight.

I'm extremely disappointed in him. He *said* he'd fight to the very end after losing an election in the manner he did, then turned 'round and caved in.

We need someone who won't cave for anything.

Yes, someone who will fight for us.

10:01 PM, September 24, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Give Kerry a LITTLE credit, at least. Goshamighty, the people who voted for him ought to, at least. Look, there's something weird going on or we wouldn't have so many Congressmen/women and Senators giving in to Bush & Co. It can't all be Delay. I figure it's the "men in the shadows" that PNAC is only a visible part of. And now that SOB Paul "Big Bad Wolf"awitz is in charge of the World Bank, right?
I still think Kerry was pressured by
these folks which include the people who are members of Skull and Bones, (Bush and Kerry both members), or maybe even threatened. Don't you think these guys are capable of destroying Teresa Kerry's company or foundations? She has factories, etc. all over the world. These guys aren't above hiring mercenaries, guerilla fighters, etc. bombing the factories, or even murder. At the very least they can mess up financing, stock prices, etc. Kerry wanted to be President, but he loves his family, for God's sake, and I don't think there's a cowardly bone in his body. He's trying to do the best he can right now, and we can always hope he'll run again in '08.

11:57 AM, September 28, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

All of the above being things that I want our president to stand up and fight against. We need someone with enough power, yet enough humanity in them.

I will accept no less. I'm tired of these jackasses that run our country now.

*If* Kerry had cared about all of us, he would have stood up to it. There are those who would say this doggone country and the people in it are worth it.

I will accept no one that is any less qualified than to stand up to these bastards. Period.

5:49 PM, September 28, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

Well, OK, feel that way if you want to, and I will continue to support John Kerry because I want to. Personally, I think that Bush is paving the way for The Anti-Christ to come. Some people think he is The Anti-Christ (I would think The Anti-Christ would be smarter than Bush, tho.) As Maniac says, how many people would dare stand up to The Anti-Christ? Take heart. We have a long hard road ahead of us, and we were warned of that. But, I believe that good will triumph over evil in the end. It's too bad that when there was such a clear choice between good (Kerry) and evil (Cheney)so many good christians totally blew it this last election.

3:23 PM, September 30, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Well... let's take a look here:

John Kerry isn't without his ties, either.

Kerry is a distant cousin of U.S. President George W. Bush, though there appears to be some dispute regarding exactly how related they are

In 1937, Richard Kerry met Rosemary Forbes, a member of the wealthy Forbes family.

While living in the U.S., Kerry spent several summers at the Forbes family's estates on Naushon Island off Cape Cod.

In his sophomore year, Kerry became president of the Yale Political Union. His involvement with the Political Union gave him an opportunity to be involved with important issues of the day, such as the civil rights movement and Kennedy's New Frontier program. He was also inducted into the Skull and Bones Society.

Kerry and his second wife, Teresa Simões-Ferreira Heinz, the widow of Pennsylvania Senator H. John Heinz III, a Republican,

The Forbes 400 survey estimated in 2004 that Teresa Heinz Kerry had a net worth of $750 million. However, estimates have frequently varied, ranging from around $165 million to as high as $3.2 billion, according to a study in the Los Angeles Times. Regardless of which figure is given, Kerry is the wealthiest U.S. Senator. Kerry is wealthy in his own name, and is the beneficiary of at least four trusts inherited from Forbes family members, including his mother, who died in 2002

Although the rest is good and positive, I see no diff in these statements between him & GWB, in all reality, with the exception of the greed that GWB has for oil. He has that oil greed, however, for the same reason that Kerry is so rich -- MONEY.

More here on the Ancestry of John Forbes Kerry.

10:27 AM, October 01, 2005  
Anonymous Democat said...

I know all this about Kerry already, having read 3 books about him and having watched "Going Up River: The Long War of John Kerry".
Kerry has a pretty illustrious pedigree, being the direct descendent of John Winthrop, the first gov. of Mass. (makes him about as close to an American aristocrat as you can get) However, HIS New England patrician upbringing instilled in him the sense that he had a duty to give something back to his country (civic responsibility). His father, a diplomat, came from Eastern European Jewish ancestry (they converted to Catholicism and changed their surname.) Eastern European Jews have a long history of social activism.
Kerry went to private schools because he had a childless aunt who financed the educations of him and his siblings. He went to Yale because he was intelligent and active in debate, etc. Bush went to Yale because he was a legacy student. Kerry got into Skull and Bones on his merits. Bush did because his father and grandfather had been members. Kerry volunteered for the Navy and to go to Vietnam. Bush skipped over hundreds of applicants, got into the TANG and went AWOL. Bush failed at just about every business he ever tried. Kerry became a successful lawyer, prosecutor, and Senator. Teresa does wonderful work through her foundations and has won the Albert Schwietzer Gold Medal for Humanitarianism.
I don't hold Teresa or John Kerry's wealth against them, any more than I hold it against Bill Cosby, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, or George Soros. Rich LIBERALS use their money to help others. Rich conservatives use their money to make more money to make more money...

3:16 PM, October 02, 2005  

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