Tuesday, June 28, 2005

Bush Speaks

The pResident who doesn't look at poll numbers decided it was time to rev up the war again. I looked at Townhall for the wingnut reaction...here is one.

...I thought he did a nice job of connecting 9/11, Al Qaeda, and the War in Iraq again for those who don't see the connection. Of course, some of them will never see it, but he's got to keep saying it, and it's good to hear for those who may have supported the war and are now having doubts.

You mean he lied again...or was he lying when he said there was no connection....at least until he forced it. Yes he does have to keep saying it, at least until he comes up with a more plausible lie.

I love the part where he said: "Some wonder whether Iraq is a central fight in the War on Terror. Among the terrorists, there is no debate." How clear is that? Perfect, simple, Bush declarative sentence. You think we're not fighting terror in Iraq? Well, the king of terror thinks we are. Nice.

You mean Osama is in Iraq!!! My God, last I heard he was in Pakistan or Afganistan. If it is the central front of the war on terror it's only because we are there. If we go back to finish the job in Afghanistan it would soon move there. At least at that point we would be fighting the real terrorists. Is the war on terror over if we "win" in Iraq?

It's easy to forget all the things that have been accomplished in Iraq and Bush lists them so we can remember that last year at this time, we had just turned over sovereignty and there had been no elections or Iraqi government or Constitutional convention, and there were certainly no Sunnis who were getting involved in writing the Constitution.

At what cost? Next time I hope the grown ups are in charge so we can have a more targeted, effective and less costly battle, blood and treasure.

No plan for pulling out. Good. Wrong message to troops, Iraqis and enemies. Some specifics about how things are improving on the ground (Operation Lightning), but not sugar-coated (admitting there are not enough who are ready).

Gee they had a military but Dick decided to disband it. Maybe shouldn't have done that. Weed out the bad guys and sign up the good guys. That would be too easy though.

He connects Libya, Iraq, Lebanon and other reforms in the Mid-East, which some folks will hate, but it's hard to deny when you lay it all out like that.

Libya was talking with the British before the war started because they weren't happy with the way the Italians and French were handling the oil. Muhamar did it for money not out of fear. What about all those countries we have heard are sending terrorists. Saudi, Syria, Yemen and on and on. Hmmmmm, not so hard to deny after all.

Finally, I like it that he appealed directly to the American people to show the troops that they support them by sending a letter or flying a flag on this July 4th. Bush does best when he's speaking directly to the American people, and asking them to literally support the troops is an effective way to ask them to back him in the war in Iraq. And I think it will work, at least during this Fourth of July week.

Yea, we support President Bush and our troops. Like they are one in the same. Not in my book, and he can filibuster til he can't hold it any longer and I don't believe it. Do fly your flag and send a letter though. That was his only good idea.

The power of simply asking folks to help out is potent, especially when it comes from the President.

Coming from this President I'm not so sure. Not when he accomplishes his goals like this. I support smart ideas not disastrous ones.

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The DemoCat wonders if the reason we haven't been able to find Osama in Afghanistan or Pakistan is that he is in Saudi Arabia. The man (or beast, such as the case must be) is supposed to be on dialysis for his kidneys and liver-right? If he actually is alive, which I doubt, I don't see how he could survive in a cave in Afghanistan.
The Democat is skeptical about Osama being an American agent-more likely he's involved with Saudi terrorists or all these princes that are the sons of the "Lecher King" who has about 50 sons if I remember rightly-all of them interested in getting the throne even though there's a crown prince. When the old guy dies, expect a blood bath in Saudi Arabia home of public beheadings and stonings.
Osama may well be working with the "men in the shadows" which some think is an international cartel of corporate globalists with so much money/power there's no way to imagine it. PNAC would be only a visible part-the front men-of this. The DemoCat's favorite political song "Lives in the Balance" describes this problem with the shadow men perfectly. The lyrics are available on-line and are just as true as they were in the 80s.
Re: Bush's speech. Ya can't believe anything he says. Like Molly Ivins says, they're just catapaulting the PROPAGANDA and Cheney's the worst one in the bunch.

5:10 PM, June 29, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

A reaction:

>snip<

There's one thing you have to give George W. Bush credit for: the man can lie, and with a straight face. The problem he faces is that fewer and fewer people in the United States believe him. One day after Donald Rumsfeld stated that the U.S. troops should be prepared to confront the Iraqi insurgency for up to the next 12 years, Bush went on national television to try to convince the American people that they must support the continuation of his war policies.

If the media had any guts, they would have ripped Bush's speech apart tonight. On five separate occasions he invoked the September 11 attacks as the pretext for the war and occupation. There wasn't a single, solitary reference to Iraq's so-called weapons of mass destruction. Before the war, this was the core of the Bush/Cheney propaganda.

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, speech to VFW National Convention, August 26, 2002.

Bush's motivation to justify his war policies on national television was not simply a desperate act to bolster sagging public opinion. Bush is actively trying to head off the growing movement for impeachment. His pre-war lies are being exposed by the Downing Street series of memos. Lying to Congress and the people is an impeachable offense. The fact is that more than 100,000 Iraqis and more than 1,700 U.S. soldiers have died as a consequence of these lies. Bush's illegal war of aggression is also a War Crime, a Crime Against Peace, and a Crime Against Humanity.


Bush says: Give me your children

Bush also took on a new role as the pitchman for war: that of "Recruiter-in-Chief." Bush, who was a gung-ho supporter of the Vietnam War - but used his wealth and power to avoid personal participation - shamelessly appealed to young people to sign up to become soldiers for his Iraq war, claiming glory and honor would await them.

Bush has again tried to turn reality on its head, but let's use one of his banal generalities as a guide to action. Bush said tonight: "We know that if evil is not confronted it gains in strength and audacity." Exactly! Unless Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are impeached, the evil they represent will gain audacity and strength.

Your help is needed.

6:19 PM, June 29, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

“A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt ...

If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake.”

Written in a letter by Thomas Jefferson after the passage of the Sedition Act in 1798

11:49 PM, June 29, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

"I recognize that Americans want our troops to come home as quickly as possible. So do I. "

The Donkey agrees with this sentence uttered by Bush. So bring them home. Mission accomplished. We won.

9:02 PM, July 02, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Unfortunately, it will happen either when witches are totally obliterated from the earth, or hell freezes over first.

Sorry, am tired and in a mood tonight.

11:10 PM, July 02, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

From CathiefromCanada:

50 lies

One of the surprising things about the Iraq War is that there sometimes appear to be two different wars underway here -- the one that the US is winning, according to the right wing press and bloggers, and the one they are losing, in reality.
While poking around the internet this morning, I saw this Kos diary (which credits an unlinked Digby post.) Anyway, it refers to an old story which may explain some of the dicotomy.
Eighteen months ago, in November 2003, this story reported on an investigation by a USAF Colonel (Ret.) Sam Gardiner which he called "Truth from These Podia: Summary of a Study of Strategic Influence, Perception Management, Strategic Information Warfare and Strategic Psychological Operations in Gulf II". His report identified fifty news stories about the Iraq war that were faked up to sell the Iraq War. The texts of the Gardiner report are here in pdf files: Part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5, and part 6 -- each of these is about 10 pages long, so I don't really understand why the report wasn't posted in a single document.
Anway, here is a list of the stories which Gardiner says were faked to create and maintain support for the Iraq War:
• Iraq was connected to terrorism and 9/11
• Lt. Commander Speicher might still be alive
• Iraq had drones
• Mohammad Atta met with Iraqi
• Ansar al-Salm had a poison factory
• Chemical and biological weapons: Quantities, Location, Delivery readiness
• Iraq had Weapons labs
• Iraq had WMD cluster bombs
• Iraq's Scuds
• Saddam punished people by cutting off ears
• Cyber war capability
• The nuclear materials from Niger story
• The aluminum tubes story
• Iraq developing nuclear weapons
• Iraq developing dirty bombs
• Troops handing out food; humanitarian operations
• US did not attack the power grid
• Surrender of the 507th
• US troops approaching the 'Red Zone' where WMD would be used.
• US troops fighting the 51st Iraqi Mechanized Division & commander
• The 'uprising' in Basrah supporting the invasion
• 'Liberations' of Umm Qasr and Basrah
• Iraqi white flag incidents (pretending to surrender)
• US and UK uniforms to commit atrocities
• Iraqis were executing prisoners
• The 'Salman Pak' terrorist training facility
• Private Lynch story: language (eg, described as an "ambush")
• Iraq using children soldiers
• The 1000-vehicle attack from Baghdad
• How few civilian casualties
• Saddam hung a woman for waving at troops
• WMD locations: Moved to Syria, Hidden, Just-in-time program
• Changing descriptions of the post-conflict enemy
• The status of infrastructure repairs
• French stories (as punishment for not supporting the war): High precision switches, Smallpox strains, Signing long term oil contracts, Spare parts for aircraft, Roland missiles, Passport for Iraqi leaders
• Russian stories (also punishment): Signing long term oil contracts, Night-vision goggles, GPS Jamming equipment, Saddam in embassy
• British Parliamentarian punishment (Galloway)


Imagine how f*cked your brain would be if you still believed some or all of these stories? And, accepting these as true, imagine how amazed you would be that anyone would not be 100 per cent behind the Iraq War? Why, you would be in a parallel universe, the one where the US won the war in Iraq but the darned Main Stream Media and those crazy bloggers just wouldn't admit it.

posted by CathiefromCanada : Sunday, July 03, 2005


We're sorry, Iraq!

11:03 AM, July 03, 2005  

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