Monday, May 28, 2007

What Do We Expect Them To Do?

Here's some snippets of.. this story.... from the New York Times.

“I thought, ‘What are we doing here? Why are we still here?’ ” said Sergeant Safstrom, a member of Delta Company of the First Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry, 82nd Airborne Division. “We’re helping guys that are trying to kill us. We help them in the day. They turn around at night and try to kill us.”
His views are echoed by most of his fellow soldiers in Delta Company, renowned for its aggressiveness.

A small minority of Delta Company soldiers — the younger, more recent enlistees in particular — seem to still wholeheartedly support the war. Others are ambivalent, torn between fear of losing more friends in battle, longing for their families and a desire to complete their mission.....
“We’ve captured 4 of the top 10 most-wanted guys in this area,” he said. And the streets of Kadhimiya are filled with shoppers and the stores are open, he said, a rarity in Baghdad due partly to Delta Company’s patrols. .......“My guys are all professionals. I tell them to do something, they do it.” His dictum is proved on patrol, where his soldiers walk the streets for hours in the stifling heat, providing cover for one another with crisp efficiency. ........

.....When the battle was over, Delta Company learned that among the enemy dead were at least two Iraqi Army soldiers that American forces had helped train and arm.
“The 29th was a watershed moment in a negative sense, because the Iraqi Army would not fight with us,” Captain Rogers said, adding, “Some actually picked up weapons and fought against us.”
The battle changed the attitude among his soldiers toward the war, he said.
“Before that fight, there were a few true believers.” Captain Rogers said. “After the 29th, I don’t think you’ll find a true believer in this unit. They’re paratroopers. There’s no question they’ll fulfill their mission. But they’re fighting now for pride in their unit, professionalism, loyalty to their fellow soldier and chain of command.”
To Sergeant O’Flarity, the Iraqi security forces are militias beholden to local leaders, not the Iraqi government. “Half of the Iraqi security forces are insurgents,” he said.
As for his views on the war, Sergeant O’Flarity said, “I don’t believe we should be here in the middle of a civil war.”
“We’ve all lost friends over here,” he said. “Most of us don’t know what we’re fighting for anymore. We’re serving our country and friends, but the only reason we go out every day is for each other.”

.........Sergeant Griffin understands the criticism of the Iraqi forces, but he believes they, and the war effort, must be given more time.
“If we throw this problem to the side, it’s not going to fix itself,” he said. “We’ve created the Iraqi forces. We gave them Humvees and equipment. For however long they say they need us here, maybe we need to stay.”

I respect his dedication and service but I think it is time for him to come home, or at least be moved to more fruitful ground. We are not fixing the problem the way we are doing it. It continues to worsen. We did give them Humvees and equipment which I knew would be a problem eventually. They are already starting to use what we gave them against us. Let's refocus our terrorism efforts in...Oh,... lets say Afghanistan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and maybe even here in America. I think there is a lot of evidence that those would be far more key areas than Iraq. Who knows, we might even get Bin Laden!

3 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And some people say this war is nothing like the one in Vietnam. Yeah, people like Duhbya, Limbaugh, and Cheney who supported that one, but left it to others to fight. This war is not being fought on a battle field and not only is it being fought with guerilla warfare, our guys have to worry about terrorists, too, of which there were very few in Iraq until all H*ll broke loose thanks to Bush and Cheney having NO PLAN to stabilize the country after the invasion. If nothing else, the country would have to be divided into 3 parts with walls in between them like Berlin-Sunni, Shiite, and Kurd, but it's not just a matter of their separate religions. There are the oil fields and who will get the most oil to be considered.
But then, Cheney and his good buds want that oil for themselves or at least as close to FREE as they can get, plus they have their mega bases in Iraq, so they can use them to dominate the Middle East for at least the next 30-50 years. So, whatever happens the U.S. is not getting out and isn't it so nice the way the GOP has helped Cheney and Bush trap our guys there to enrich Halliburton, etc. and has stalemated Congress so that it is forced to go along just to make sure the troops get funded? NOT!
And IF Osama Bin Laden is still alive which I doubt considering what his health was like, he's probably hiding out in Saudi Arabia with help from his oil rich family. You know, the good friends of the Bush family who were allowed to leave the U.S. immediately after 9/11!

Libby

11:39 PM, May 29, 2007  
Blogger The Donkey said...

Hello Ron

Greetings from Roswell. The Donkey's predictions of microchips being implanted are closer to reality. Here is a little bit of data the Donkey has read.

"The proposed legislation would require every job applicant in America to have their eligibility to work verified by the DHS, using the error-plagued Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS). EEVS creates a massive government database containing extraordinary amounts of personal information on everyone in America, tied to each individual’s Social Security number. If DHS makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the bill’s prohibitions on judicial review.

As a part of EEVS, every person in America would be forced to carry a hardened Social Security card perhaps containing biometric information about the cardholder - essentially a national ID - and present a Real ID-compliant driver’s license to get any new job."

Pleasent dreams

11:35 PM, May 30, 2007  
Blogger The Donkey said...

We are all going to be guest workers now.

From the whitehouse.gov

Three Key Points On The Bipartisan Immigration Reform Bill's Worksite Enforcement Provisions

1. To Meet Its Promise To Crack Down On The Hiring Of Illegal Workers, The Bipartisan Immigration Reform Bill Sets Up A Sophisticated Electronic Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) To Help Employers Verify The Status Of Workers They Hire.
2. Employers Will Be Required To Verify The Work Eligibility Of All Employees Using EEVS, And All Workers Will Be Required To Present Stronger And More Readily Verifiable Identification Documents.
3. The Bill Imposes Stiff New Criminal And Civil Penalties On Employers Who Hire Illegal Workers.

EEVS Will Help Honest Employers Follow The Law And Hold Employers Who Hire Illegal Workers Accountable

Under The Bipartisan Immigration Reform Bill, A Reliable Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) Must Be Established And In Use Before Any Temporary Worker Or Z Visas Are Issued.

* All U.S. Employers Will Be Required To Use EEVS To Verify Their Employees' Work Eligibility.
* EEVS Will Be Founded On Unprecedented Sharing Of Information Across Numerous Electronic Databases. These include:
o Social Security Administration records;
o State Department passport and visa records (including photographs);
o Birth and death records maintained by State vital statistics agencies; and
o State driver's license information.
* For The First Time, EEVS Will Allow Employers To Verify The Authenticity Of Documents By Providing Access To Identification Photographs In Government Databases.

10:06 PM, May 31, 2007  

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