Sunday, September 24, 2006

A Journey Through The Past, Just Like The Present

Since Faux News decided to do a walk down memory lane with President Clinton I thought we might take a stroll our selves. From Americablog and an article written in 2002 here are a number of items that point out where Bush failed to take Bin Laden seriously, including:

Bush concluded in February 2001 that bin Laden was behind the USS Cole attack. Then Bush did absolutely nothing to respond.
At least twice, Bush conveyed the message to the Taliban that the United States would hold the regime responsible for an al Qaeda attack. But after concluding that bin Laden's group had carried out the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole – a conclusion stated without hedge in a Feb. 9 briefing for Vice President Cheney – the new administration did not choose to order armed forces into action.

Rumsfeld cut extra money for counterterrorism.
In his first budget, Bush spent $13.6 billion on counterterrorist programs across 40 departments and agencies. That compares with $12 billion in the previous fiscal year, according to the Office of Management and Budget. There were also somewhat higher gaps this year, however, between what military commanders said they needed to combat terrorists and what they got. When the Senate Armed Services Committee tried to fill those gaps with $600 million diverted from ballistic missile defense, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said he would recommend a veto. That threat came Sept. 9.
Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger warned Condi Rice about Al Qaeda
"I said to Condi, 'You're going to spend more time during your four years on terrorism generally and al Qaeda specifically than any other issue,' " he said. Bush administration officials gave a similar account.
Clinton staff met weekly to coordinate anti-terror battle, Bush's advisers didn't have nearly the same zeal for the issue.
He noticed a difference on terrorism. Clinton's Cabinet advisers, burning with the urgency of their losses to bin Laden in the African embassy bombings in 1998 and the Cole attack in 2000, had met "nearly weekly" to direct the fight, Kerrick said. Among Bush's first-line advisers, "candidly speaking, I didn't detect" that kind of focus, he said. "That's not being derogatory. It's just a fact. I didn't detect any activity but what Dick Clarke and the CSG were doing."

No need to do a blame game in my book but the right needs to get off the Clintons fault they have used for everything from 9/11 to their bad pastrami sandwich. The blame for our current failed policy lies directly with the policy makers of the last 6 years. I can not remember a time in my life when this country has gone so far backwards in meeting its goals. We need real ,strong leadership. They can say that is what they are all day long but the facts and reality refute it. A business person with their track record would have been removed some time ago.

We heard this week of a story that Pakistan was told go with us or get bombed back to the stone age. Here is a story in Asia times from 2004 that says the same thing. It also has tidbits like this:

If the 9-11 Commission is really looking for a smoking gun, it should look no further than at Lieutenant-General Mahmoud Ahmad, the director of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) at the time......In early October 2001, Indian intelligence learned that Mahmoud had ordered flamboyant Saeed Sheikh - the convicted mastermind of the kidnapping and killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl - to wire US$100,000 from Dubai to one of hijacker Mohamed Atta's two bank accounts in Florida. A juicy direct connection was also established between Mahmoud and Republican Congressman Porter Gross and Democratic Senator Bob Graham. They were all in Washington together discussing Osama bin Laden over breakfast when the attacks of September 11, 2001, happened. .......On September 10, the Pakistani daily The News reported that the Mahmoud visit to the United States "triggered speculation about the agenda of his mysterious meetings at the Pentagon and National Security Council". .....According to the Washington Post, and also to sources in Islamabad, the Mahmoud-Graham-Goss meeting lasted until the second plane hit Tower 2 of the World Trade Center. Graham later said they were talking about terrorism coming from Afghanistan, which means they were talking about bin Laden. Pakistani intelligence sources told Asia Times Online that on the afternoon of September 11 itself, as well as on September 12 and 13, Armitage met with Mahmoud with a stark choice: either Pakistan would help the US against al-Qaeda, or it would be bombed back to the Stone Age.......Million-dollar questions remain. Did Mahmoud know when and how the attacks of September 11 would happen? Did Musharraf know? Could the Bush administration have prevented September 11? It's hard to believe high echelons of the CIA and FBI were not aware of the direct link between the ISI and alleged chief hijacker Mohammed Atta. On October 7, Mahmoud was demoted from the ISI. By that time, Washington obviously knew of the connection between Mahmoud, Saeed Sheikh and Mohamed Atta: the FBI knew it.

Remember this story is from 2004. Read the whole thing for a stinging indictment of the Cheney Administration and questions that need to be answered.


Blogger Dedanna said...

The Rise of Ameri- er, Jihadistan, that is.

4:43 PM, September 25, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...


I don't know where else to put this where it will be seen right off, so am putting it here.

I think it a very good idea not to give this person any attention at all -- don't respond to anything he says, nothing. Might be good to pass along also --

9:48 AM, September 26, 2006  
Blogger The Game said...

not sure how what you wrote has anything to do with Bill Clinton...I wrote many, many posts on this...not going to repeat it all here...

9:53 PM, September 26, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

From The Democratic Daily, John Kerry on Newly Declassified N.I.E. Findings on Iraq Policy and Terror:

A couple of AP reporters, Katherine Shrader and Jennifer Loven, blasted Bush’s assertion that the “formerly classified” NIE classified assessment of global terrorism supported the Bush administration’s arguments that the “world is safer because of the war.” Their headline tonight, “Iraq is ’cause celebre’ for extremists,” caused at least a couple of right wingnut bloggers to accuse AP of “sad commentary” and a “hatchet job.” Oh my, the truth about Bush’s lies hurts… don’t it. AP reports: In the bleak report declassified and released Tuesday on Bush’s orders...

Leave it to NewsFarters for the latest in your daily b.s.

Before the right wingnuttia gets too happy, they might underscore in their minds something else that's said in this article: But more than three pages of stark judgments warning about the spread of terrorism contrasted with the administration’s glass-half-full declarations.

9:33 AM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Ron said...

Dedanna, he(must be a he, no woman could be that angry or hateful) is a rageaholic and I had the exact same thought as you did. Ignore.

Game..It wasn't ment to be about Clinton. Most of what you wrote has nothing to do with Bush and his mistakes either. Let's move forward. It shouldn't be about who is responsible. This Islam fundies are responsible. I am just trying to even the playing field. There is plenty of blame to go around. Let's figure out how to win over those responsible.

12:47 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Speaking of Islamic Fundies, more on my last post, from a different angle.

12:49 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Interesting that this stuff is coming out now. Election year is what I'm thinking. However, what gets me is why would GWB declassify and release the first link himself? It only looks bad on him and his administration. Seems to be shooting himself in the foot as far as election midterms go.

12:51 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

I do give credit for one thing, that being that I don't know if he's more reasonable, or if I am these days, but I can tolerate Game a little more.

12:53 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...


That last link is EVERYWHERE!

1:11 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Re: not meeting our goals in Iraq: Seems there's another American boo-boo (one of thousands) in Iraq. I don't see how anyone can say that the current administration is anything but incompetent?

I'm finding link after link after link today showing that America's presence in Iraq not only isn't doing squat, but is doing major harm.

2:44 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Ron said...

Well dedanna, it points out the obvious to anyone who has been paying attention.

3:25 PM, September 27, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

The douchebag over at the other side is on my permanent "do not reply", :ignore", and "do not call" list.

6:08 PM, September 28, 2006  

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