Sunday, June 25, 2006

Failure To Think.....

...Past the end of your nose. In the ongoing smear campaign(the only way the right knows how to do it) against John Murtha, This is the latest for the non thinking knee jerk conservatives. The story.

MIAMI — American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to an audience of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.

What do they have to say about this? Take a wild guess. It's not to hard to figure out. It's the same thing they say about everyone else who might have a thought that differs from theirs.

(real comment from a rightie blog below.)

Here is a man who loves the United States. A man who definitely wants us to do our best. A man who could easily be the spokes person for any terrorist group. He gives comfort and hope for terrorists worldwide. (the first two sentences obviously snark)

One note johnnys, so predictable you don't even need to ask.

Let's examine Murthas' statement. "MIAMI — American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran.."

Peace according to the dictionary:
The absence of war or other hostilities.
An agreement or a treaty to end hostilities.
Freedom from quarrels and disagreement; harmonious relations

Ok, a few of you bright people are catching on. Iran has no nuclear weapons. North Korea does but we are, at this point, absent of war or other hostilities. We are in negotiations with both on ending hostilities and neither our side or the other has commenced more than verbal hostilities.

Iraq. War, hostilities between not only the U.S. and and others but hostilities between numerous factions within the country. Certainly we must be aware of threats and Madmanjani and nutcase in N. Korea are certainly that. The fact is the possibility exists that an agreement can be made. Even if one thinks the possibility is small. So far peace among us(outside of jawboning) has been maintained. That is not the case in Iraq. Which is more dangerous, the potential for violence or actual violence? Which is more dangerous to world peace, war between a number of countries or violence within one country? Again this is not just two sides fighting but many factions with inflamed passions on each side. Would it be more dangerous to condemn and argue with conservatives or liberals or advance to a killing war among us? Which is more dangerous to peace? If other countries got involved on one side or the other would that enhance world peace or diminish it?
The lack of critical thought is mindnumbing among the hate other Americans crowd. How little of an education must you have to not be able to find the logic in Murthas statement.

He gives comfort and hope to terrorists worldwide.

And just how does he come up with this conclusion? He doesn't. It is more learned knee jerk conservatism.
What things make America attractive to others? What freedoms do we pride? Maybe the freedom of speech and thought? But exercise it and you are harming America and aiding our enemies? How I Qless do you have to be to even force this to make sense? Is this what we want for Iraq? That only positive comments are allowed? The rest are unpatriotic and harmful to the country? Totally mindless stupidity and logic.
How does freedom of speech and thought give aid and comfort to those who we are told don't want it? Seems to me if anyone is talking like the terrorist or their best friend it would be those opposed to freedom of thought and not those that support it. Of course when you are long on rhetoric and bluster and short on critical thinking skills all the right bizarro world slogans make perfect sense. Jerk that knee!!

More on the swiftboating of Murtha Here and Here.

How these people can say they support the troops is beyond me.

Update: The librl medya misrepresented it and the radical republicans spread it...suprise!

Murtha apparently never said anything of the sort. What he did was cite a Pew poll released two weeks ago showing that people around the world, including in closely-allied countries like Great Britain, believe the U.S. is the greatest threat to peace.
A statement released by Murtha’s office today quotes an email from Melissa Sanchez of the Miami Herald, who also attended the speech, saying of the purported Murtha “quote”: “
That was in reference to international polls. It was not so much his own conjecture, but a conclusion drawn from polls in various countries.”

Of course other countries don't have a large group of wingnuts who think they should totally destroy the people who don't agree with them..by whatever tactics. The wingnuts are shameful, and shameless.

3 Comments:

Blogger Ron said...

Chancuff...the problem for me is wheather he said it or out of context or anything, that is NOT what the "liberal media" is saying he said! Even CNN "librl bastion" misquote the quote. Watch.. they are saying he said America is a bigger threat(bizzare) not American presence in Iraq(easily understandable). This is sickening sloppy outright right wing bias in the media.

3:00 PM, June 27, 2006  
Blogger chancuff said...

This story has taken so many twists and turns, if you blink, you'll miss the next turn.

New developments are being being tracked at this news site:

http://theinfozone.net/JohnMurtha.html

A notable development: The original Sun-Sentinel's article written by Elizabeth Baier, has been removed from their site and replaced with Ms. Baier's revised story.

If any of you bookmarked Sun-Sentinel's original article that has made them famous for their "the shot heard around the world", check your bookmarked page now. The significance of this is rather overwhelming. This weeks' hysteria, and subsequent retractions and corrections is over something that "never happened".

Interesting to note, it retains the original publication date June 25, 2006, and The Sun-Sentinel did not note this story is a revision.

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism is Flat, Too

2:55 AM, July 02, 2006  
Blogger chancuff said...

Looking at the large number of blog posts I've placed throughout the blogsphere in the last 2 weeks, I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking they look like spam.

My apologies to all.

Some interesting things happened today. I received an email response from Bill Pasco(e) of Diana Irey's campaign against John Murtha for the 12th District of Pennsylvania seat in the House of Representatives.

In responding Mr. Pascoe's email, I found it useful to CC that response to him to Elizabeth Baier and her editor Ms. Rosenhause (Managing Editor Sun-Sentinel).

The topic of those emails was "Rovian Architecture Unplugged". If you are interested to learn more, feel free to write them.

Make "Rovian Architechure Unplugged" your subject heading so they know what your inquiry is about.

Their email addresses:

Bill Pascoe phone: (724) 258-2300

bill@irey.com

Elizabeth Baier

ebaier@sun-sentinel.com

Sharon Rosenhause

srosenhause@sun-sentinel.com

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too

7:49 PM, July 11, 2006  

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