Good Guy, Or Bad Guy

Game says:

IN A BOLD AND CONTROVERSIAL DECISION, the president authorized a program for the surveillance of communications within the United States, seeking to prevent acts of domestic sabotage and espionage. In so doing, he ignored a statute that possibly forbade such activity, even though high-profile federal judges had affirmed the statute's validity. The president sought statutory amendments allowing this surveillance but, when no such legislation was forthcoming, he continued the program nonetheless. And when Congress demanded that he disclose details of the surveillance program, the attorney general said, in no uncertain terms, that it would get nothing of the sort.

This bit of Presidential cowboyness was brought to you by none other than Democratic Icon FDR.Shall we bash him?Did his party bash him?The Supreme Court had ruled against his tactic but what did FDR say? "I am convinced that the Supreme Court never intended any dictum in the particular case which it decided to apply to grave matters involving the defense of the nation." And he did it anyway.Here we have a President at war doing his very best to defend his Country.An Icon of the Democratic party doing EXACLTY the same thing the Democratic party is so exercised about President Bush for.But this latest program is far less the what FDR did, in the first program all we know is they are listening to international conversations involving known terrorists.In the latest records of calls, with no names attached looking for patterns.I wonder if the mad at Bush types will also trash the history provided here by a liberal Icon.Man, the Democratic party really doesn't stand for anything anymore. Say and do whatever it takes to get elected...

Actually Game only said the last part.

Ron said,

Game, your source please? A rose by any other name is still a rose and so is shit disguised as pertectin us. I wouldn't care if it was a repub, dem or liberal or conservative or fdr or gwb. Unfortunately I wasn't around to fight that fight. Don't blame me or most of the people living today. You are right. Dems suck, problem is Repubs suck worse.

Well, since I gotta do all the work around here.:-) I looked it up all point toward a story in the Spectator.
For conservatives who aren't aware, Richard Mellon Scaife owns the Spectator. If you don't know who he is look it up. He is the rights version of George Soros. Using his big dollars to push his version of reality. Quoting the Spectator to a liberal is like quoting moveon.org to a conservative. Just so you know how much respect you are engendering for your argument.

Now, I have a feeling that Game didn't read the entire argument to get any kind of context. First of all we were dealing with the communications act of 1934. Not the same thing as the law or laws as they are today. Secondly we have proof of people in high places abusing this power a number of times within recent history so we have reason to be suspicious. Especially after all the lies and half truths we have been told.
Here's another part of the article:

You are, therefore, authorized and directed in such cases as you may approve, after investigation of the need in each case, to authorize the necessary investigating agents that they are at liberty to secure information by listening devices direct to the conversation or other communications of persons suspected of subversive activities against the Government of the United States, including suspected spies. You are requested furthermore to limit these investigations so conducted to a minimum and to limit them insofar as possible to aliens.

This procedure is far more stringent and far less intrusive(although still seems wrong) than anything like data mining and such that we are talking about today. Again, many laws and Constitutional decisions have been passed since 1939 concerning communications and privacy. Much has also changed with the technology.

Here is the real heart of the argument. Game honestly belives the President is a good guy and wants whats best for the country and would not use information obtained legally or illegally for anything but fightin terra.
Ron thinks the Presnit is highly suspect, has a Rovain use for the information, and wouldn't hesitate to use it for that or much worse.

Spectator...If you dare!