Republicans First To Confiscate Your Gun
If there was a Democratic Government right now the gun people would be making this the big story and saying " I told ya so".
Local police officers began confiscating weapons from civilians in preparation for a forced evacuation of the last holdouts still living here, .......Mr. Compass, the police superintendent, said that after a week of near anarchy in the city, no civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns, or other firearms of any kind. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.
That order apparently does not apply to the hundreds of security guards whom businesses and some wealthy individuals have hired to protect their property. The guards, who are civilians working for private security firms like Blackwater, are openly carrying M-16s and other assault rifles.
Oh, I see unless you are wealthy and enrich the corporations favored by the administration.
posted by Ron at 9:47 PM
11 Comments:
I don't understand the reasoning in the title "Republicans first to confiscate your gun". Perhaps you could enligthen me. The last I have heard, the governor and the mayor are Democrats, and they are still in charge. All the law enforcement agencies, federal, state and local, are under their control. This includes all the National Guard troops. You seem to think everything has been federalized, but that is not the case, at least yet. There was an interesting interview on TV with the head of the FBI in NO and Compass in which the FBI guy stated quite strongly that his mission was to SUPPORT Compass and try and provide Compass with anything he needed. I belive that even Lt. Gen Honore had to be inducted into the La NG before he could begin commanding resources. All the federal troops (non-NG) are there in a non-law enforcement capacity and acting as support in disaster relief, as is fitting under the Posse Comitatus Act. I think only way the feds could assume control of law enforcement would be to invoke the Insurrection Act, as was done during the LA riots, and that was done at the request of the gov of California. So, for better or worse, the governor and mayor are still actually in charge of it all.
That is why any enforcement policies that are made are made by them, rather than some general or other fed.
As for the security guards, every state has seperate laws governing security guards. Even the most anti gun localities like NYC and San Francisco recognize the need for private security and regulate them accordingly. I am willing to bet that if your station was smack dab in the middle of NO, your boss would have hired a security firm to protect his business from looting. It would be only sensible. I also really doubt that the guards are carrying M-16s, they are probably AR-15s, the civilian and non-automatic version of the M-16 but look exactly like the M-16. I think that is an honest mistake by a reporter who may not be that familiar with guns. I think, like Compass, that security firms are a non-issue.
There might be an underlying reason for the anti gun policy, aside from the obvious reason of trying to make the streets safe for all the relief workers. They are trying really hard to get people out of the city. The person sitting there with enough food, water, and equipment to last months, may feel safe and content while he has his weapons to guard him. Take away those, and maybe that person will now feel very unsafe and leave. It's a possibility.
I was just curious to understand why you say it's the Republicans who are taking away the guns while it's the local Democrats who are in charge.
watchman, you could be right here. whoever is in charge I don't see it as a good idea and would be against it. and this is coming from someone who would not own a gun....except under circimstances like this. This is precisely the time when one might really need one.
DemoCat is so sick of the GOP lies that DEMOCRATS will confiscate people's guns. It P.O.'s DemoCat off everytime she sees an NRA for Bush sticker. Yeah, sure let's support a war mongering corporate globalist who thinks the rich are entitled to 95% of the pie just so you guys can hunt "Bambi" with assault rifles. DemoCat doesn't hunt, herself, but admits that it's necessary to hunt animals to control their populations because of the absence of predators (thanks to people). You don't need an assault rifle to kill deer with and DemoCat objects to hunting for sheer sport, anyway, and wearing fur for vanity. DemoCat isn't a vegetarian, but believes in "the Jungle Law" (i.e. kill to eat or to keep from being eaten (except for rats, roaches, and other pests-ugh!). It isn't sporting to kill deer with an assault rifle, anyway. This is mostly a problem with the rightwing militia guys who want to collect guns so they can overthrow the government.
People who aren't wackos and have nothing to hide shouldn't mind registering their guns, background checks, and waiting periods. Probably, the majority of deaths from gunshots result from domestic violence or children getting their hands on guns and playing w/them. I believe in gun control, and the Brady Bill came about because Reagan, a GOP president, was shot and nearly killed by John Hinkley, Jr., a mentally ill man trying to impress an actress. Hinkley should never have been able to get his hands on a gun. Anyway, given the hypocrisy of the GOP and the way they used this issue to attack John Kerry, a decent and honorable candidate, to get votes for Bush, the worst U.S. President ever, it wil be intersting to see how the gun nuts react.--DemoCat
I fully agree with you Ron. I probably would have been one of the nutballs who stayed, not believing the hype. Then after that stupid move on my part, I would have stayed if possible primarily because I would never have left my dogs behind and yes, I do own a gun. This is precisely the time to have a gun, and be willing to use it to protect your life and your means of living, such as food and water, or even my boat. Now is not the time to put down such a rule. A complete breakdown of society, such as the LA riots, means the strong will prey upon the weak, and they will, and the weak must be able to protect themselves. However, that being said, as soon as it happened that I would have been able to be evacuated and not seperated from caring for my pets, I would have left. I just don't understand the thinking of those choosing to remain. Living in NO now is just not feasible. Once in the system of actual law and order, ok, you can have my gun, at least for now. Until then, nope.
Does the Warchman want the Donkey to believe Bush is helpless to protect the 2nd amendment and any local Democrat is so powerful as to overide the President?
This is not the presence of privately contracted militias on America's streets, while the weapons of ordinary citizens are being confinscated. This is nothing like that. Nothing to see here. Move along or be moved.
Besides they are AR-15 s, not military issued M16s. It takes much longer to kill massive amounts of people with an AR-15, about a minute longer at least.
Blackwater USA, a Moyock, N.C., security services firm, also has sent about 150 of its workers to the region, said spokeswoman Anne Duke.
The company's guards started helping the U.S. Coast Guard Sept. 1 with search-and-rescue missions, lending one of its Puma helicopters for the missions, Ms. Duke said.
In other words , your tax dollars at work. The government is hiring gunman to go to NOLA. Why can not the USA military handle the job?
first amendment is out the window also.
http://hurricanekatrinasucked.com/_wsn/page2.html
I understand why people wouldn't leave their pets behind. I love animals, and although, I don't have any pets at the moment, I can't imagine leaving a cat or dog behind to starve, etc. Pets are like children to the owners that love them (like anyone can own a cat-they own you). Would any of you leave your children behind?
Yes, I can see where people might need guns in a situation like we have in New Orleans. Unfortunately, the people who are shooting at the rescuers are the ones to blame for this gun confiscation. It is evident, that they have lost their minds from the trauma and need to be shot with tranquilizer darts, if possible, and transported to mental health facilities.
Also, wasn't Ron's point that it is the gun lovin' GOP who said Kerry and Gore would take people's guns away and their hypocrisy?
DemoCat
The Donkey wants to keep the guns he has. Why does Bush stand by while guns are taken?
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Thursday, September 15, 2005
Last week, GOA alerted you to the fact that officials were illegally
confiscating firearms from law-abiding citizens in New Orleans.
National Guard troops and police were going door-to-door and seizing
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You can pry my gun from my cold dead hooves.
Hunting is allowed with an assault rifle, but there is a limit to how big a clip, which doesn't matter anyways because at most you will get two shots at an animal. It is illegal to hunt with any weapon that fires more than one bullet when the trigger is pulled, so the topic of someone hunting with a SEMI-auto AK47 is null and void.
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