Tuesday, August 30, 2005

Searching For Leadership

Seems I'm not alone in looking for someone to actually stand up, make some noise and oppose the obviously unpopular. From The Light Of Reason:

Spiraling gas prices and continuing bloodshed in Iraq continue to take their toll on President Bush, whose standing with the public has sunk to an all-time low, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll..... The survey also provided bad news for Democratic leaders, who are judged as offering Bush only tepid opposition. Slightly more than half of those surveyed expressed dissatisfaction with the failure of congressional Democrats to oppose Bush more aggressively.
Self-identified Democrats were particularly impatient, with more than two in three saying congressional Democrats have not gone far enough to oppose Bush on Iraq or on administration policies in general. “Somebody needs to speak up,” said Michelle Burgess, 41, a home health aide in St. Louis. “Enough is enough. "


Blogger The Donkey said...

"We must be the change we wish to see in the world".

The Donkey have heard you say this many times on the show. Then you say it is not your job to change things, rather to stimulate ideas and get people talking. The Devil's Advocate or advocatus diaboli, was a canon lawyer appointed by the Church to argue against the canonization of the proposed candidate. The office was established in 1587 and was in effect until it was abolished by Pope John Paul II in 1983.

Since the Pope had no need for it, why would you want to play the devil's advocate? To argue a position that you do not necessarily believe in, simply for the sake of arguing wastes time and is confusing. Is Ron so insecure in his own ideas that he needs to mask them? The Donkey would rather win an agreement than an argument.

Change is what makes leadership. When the Donkey thinks of great leaders, the Donkey remembers times of change, wars, pain and conflict. Leadership is about changing to a new better way of life. You must be the change, accept responsibility for making change happen.

A leader has a vison of hope. If Ron can not find a leader that meets Ron's standards then Ron has to step up and be a leader. Great leaders never whined about not having a good leader.

The Donkey studies what great leaders do. "A leader is best when people barely know that he exists, not so good when people obey and acclaim him, worst when they despise him. Fail to honor people, They fail to honor you. But of a good leader, who talks little, when his work is done, his aims fulfilled, they will all say, "We did this ourselves."-Lao Tzu

The Donkey sees great leaders. They are the doctors, the technicians, the teachers all quietly making the world better. You can be a great leader or a rambling radio voice.

11:03 PM, August 30, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Donkey, let me try this one more time, and this is my LAST time with you guys. I have said on the show many times how it's not as easy as "get a job". That there are other factors involved. I am far from rich. I live very humbly but I am not poor or on assistance. I can say this all day about the poor people but it is not as good as from someone actually in the situation. I have also said..and believe that able bodied people should work and contribute to society. I believe both. So what happened on the show?
I knew that many people listen to them talk about their problems and say, lazy welfare people why don't they just get a job? Why don't they? Reasonable question. I asked it so people would know. I probed and searched just as I knew their little minds would. She gave the answer first hand with a real life example of how it works. I don't understand what all the fuss is about with you guys!!!?????
First I am not Catholic so I don't necessarly revere the Pope or his plans.
I don't change anything alone. Only by stimulating others to think will I be able to effect anything. If I just preach to the choir nothing is accomplished except that people know they are not alone. I think that is pretty obvious at this point. I see no inconsistancy in what I did or tryed to accomplish and my honest feelings about things. It is you and the girls twisting it to something it is not. You do your things your way and I will do mine my way. I don't consider myself a leader. Apparently you and the girls do or expect it because you have taken this far more personally than even the people involved. I do live as trying to be the change I want to see in the world and find what I have done and do not inconsistant in the least. I will continue to do the show in the way that "I" think will most enlighten people. That is what "leaders" do. They don't follow, so in that way maybe I have leadership characteristics but I am not seeking glory, just results. I am sorry, it is my job and this is how I choose to handle it. Please feel free to do your job in the way you most see fit. I promise not to interfere.
I did unintentionally hurt Lindas feelings and immediately apologized and do feel bad about that part of it. We settled the matter and I think they understand that by sharing they may have given people more understanding of peoples situation. As did Frank with his call about nursing homes.
That's the best I can do for you and if you don't like it I am sorry but welcome to the real world of Ron.

12:25 AM, August 31, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Damn, it's taking them this long to finally say that someone has to speak up???

I have NO respect, do I?

None whatsoever. Either party.

1:19 AM, August 31, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

"We must be the change we wish to see in the world".

Donkey, this is what I meant by we did what we did to this country, to ourselves, by allowing it to happen in the first place, and not standing up to fight it.

It's up to us. We must take the personal responsibility to see to it that things don't progress any further down the path they're going.

Quite a Libertarian viewpoint, I feel.

I dunno if I'd call myself one, though.

1:24 AM, August 31, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Here is some leadership for ya..... LMAO.

1:28 AM, August 31, 2005  
Blogger The Donkey said...

The Donkey is talking about a hopeful vision of world change, not a job. The Donkey's jobs are a small part of the Donkey's life. Just about any one could do the Donkey's job well, even the Lame game could do it. The Donkey is not talking about Ron's job.

This blog is not your job. Ron started this blog because had something to say. The Donkey is more concerned with the legacy he leaves behind.

Cesar Chavez, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the Dalai Lama are some of the leaders the Donkey follows. The Donkey knows these people never said, "I don't consider myself a leader." or "Only by stimulating others to think will I be able to effect anything".

The Donkey does expect much from Ron, simply because Ron is capable of doing much. To know much and to be capable of learning more is a gift. It should not be wasted arguing with one self. Ron stated he argued to keep people sharp yet Ron has chatised the Donkey for shreding the stupid posts and calling stupid people stupid.

The Donkey likes to hear from Frank and the maniacs. The Donkey does not agree with much of what Frank or the maniacs say yet the Donkey can live with it.

You quote Dr. Suess, another great leader, I also remember something he wrote;
"I meant what I said, I said what I meant. An elephant is faithful 100 percent." Much later in life I found Shakesphere wrote the same thing, "this above all to thyne own self be true." I then learned of another great leader, who said "the truth will set you free."

2:21 AM, August 31, 2005  
Blogger Dedanna said...

But see, in effecting others to think, and to ask them to stand up and fight right along with one's own self, is in itself being a leader.

One doesn't even start a blog without some sort of leadership qualities.

He can't do it alone, Donkey. His quest/journey is his own; if he wants to effect change in this country, and in this world, it's going to take a LOT of help. Lord knows we have no leaders in government that are worth a hoot; it's up to us, in the end, to effect the changes needed.

Being a talk-show host is doing just that; calling to people's attention that changes are needed, when they are. That is his job. The blog is just an added bonus to this end.

It's not up to Ron, solely, just because he has taken on leadership "characteristics". It's up to you, me, and everyone to make anything good and real in the world, regardless of what job they work.

It's also up to everyone to decide what they want in politics, in life, in everything. This isn't up to Ron, either.

But, in order to make decisions like that, everyone needs to know what they're dealing with. Openly, honestly, and without hesitation. Ron is in a position to bring this to the public. What the public does with it is up to them.

12:34 PM, August 31, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron, I have explained this before and you've refused to get it. You're not rich, but you have never had to get indigent medical care or whatever, yourself. You have said that you have never seen any place as hateful about the poor as Roswell, not even the Deep South. It is brave for Linda talk about having to get indigent care because of the hatefulness re: any kind of financial assistance. Besides that many people get LIHEAP, Medicaid, foodstamps, etc. who DO work, but have low incomes. Whatever your motives were, it was none of YOUR business and you could've researched the subject of what poor people do to earn extra money some other way without embarrassing one of your callers. I wouldn't be surprised if the boss man is putting you up to this to prevent Linda/Maniac from calling the show anymore. He couldn't get rid of Maniac himself, so Linda was attacked, what next-their cats? The people sticking up for Linda are loyal to HER not John Dunn! I won't waste my time explaining this anymore. If you still don't get it, you're as bad as The Game.

3:15 PM, August 31, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Miss Democat, I actually feel that my life has been blessed. One of those blessings is that I have had times in my life that I have been forced by circumstances to sit down and really examine myself, my values,the way to go forward in life and how to make it count in the most positive way. My decisions are certainly different than others would make. After all, thats what makes us individuals. My point is I am very much at peace with who I am, what I do and how I live my life. Yes, as a human I still make mistakes and am certainly far from perfect. I do my best to make amends and correct the situation when necessary. I quite unintentionally did hurt Lindas feelings and when that was made clear to me by the people involved(that would NOT include you)i immediately apologized. The kind, forgiving people they are, they accepted my apology.
You don't know my head, my heart, my life, hell you barely know me at all. You just get whats on the radio. I understand this. I also understand from 30 years in the business that there is always gonna be someone who is not pleased. It's part of the territory.
You can write reams about "who and what I am". You can write reams about what my intentions were and how I feel and anything else you wish. You can claw till they're worn to the nub. I know my hearts truth and I know who I am. I am at peace. You on the other hand...well physcoanalysis is not my profession but go ahead and let anger fill your head and ruin your day. Jump up and down because someone won't bend and be exactly what you think they ought to be. It's your life but it affects me very little. Guess what? IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU. It's between me and L & B. Sure I would prefer it if you liked me and we could be friends. I'm not worry about it though when you really don't even know me. Good luck with your serenity. Mine is fine. I'm at peace with the issue.

7:38 PM, August 31, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here ya go, Ron. Thought you might appreciate this one:

The Blog

9:45 PM, August 31, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...


11:18 PM, August 31, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron, See Coffee Table for answer to your post.

1:21 PM, September 01, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We quite obviously have NO leadership anywhere.

Look at the state of New Orleans and the surrounding areas. Look at the incompetency.

And no one is really honestly doing anything concrete about it.

Far as I'm concerned, every politician on this earth can go to hell. They get no more of my taxes. I pay them all for better than this. I don't pay them to see to it that people die. I don't pay them for idiocrisy. I don't pay them for stupidity. I don't pay them to deliberately wait and wait, while more and more people die.

I hope that the outcome of all this is that they all burn.

7:38 AM, September 03, 2005  

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