Monday, August 08, 2005

Democracy or Theocracy

I wonder how the war supporters will feel when they find out we spent billions to prop up the evil islamic religion?

Since the U.S. invasion nearly 2 1/2 years ago, Iraq has become far more overtly religious. Although Iraq was long one of the most secular Middle Eastern countries, the toppling of Hussein unleashed a tide of religious feeling, particularly in the Shiite community, which Hussein had brutally suppressed. In some conservative areas, women have been attacked for failing to wear the long black abaya and complete head covering that are standard dress among religious Muslim women here.
Although few women would sanction such attacks, many do accept the primacy of religious law over secular law.

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

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10:02 PM, August 08, 2005  
Blogger Pseudo-intellectual lunatic said...

nice blog

10:04 PM, August 08, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

where is the facts on this...

and thanks ron for giving me the original article that backs up the Drudge Report story and my blog...

12:02 AM, August 09, 2005  
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8:45 AM, August 09, 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I have previously mentioned, the most influential cleric
al Sistani who is a Shiite (Islamic fundamentalist not secular Muslim) has told Prime Minister Jaafari that he would like for all legislation to be based on Islamic law. I would think that approach would make Iraq a theocracy.
I don't have anything against Muslims or their religion and think since most people are good most Islamics must be good. However, Islamic law for the Shiite fundamentalists is extremely strict and oppressive re: women, girls, and people of other religions or secular Islamics. Plus, it is the nature of things for the most power hungry people to gain control in 3rd World nations. These people aren't necessarily emotionally stable-right? It was the Shiites (Ayatollah Khomeni) in Iran that took our people hostage, remember? These people hate the West, our culture, our technology, etc. Iraq has a 60% Shiite majority. Look for it to probably become another Iran. Naturally, our Administration couldn't be bothered to consider this BEFORE invading Iraq. It would have meant focusing on something other than their own profit margins and PNAC's aspirations for world domininance-like maybe the history and culture of the Islamic people. Same type of problem we got into in Vietnam which McNamara eventually had to acknowledge. If we'd understood the history/culture of Vietnam before going into that war we'd have understood that Vietnam had #1 been invaded/colonized so much that the people would see any foreigner as worse than the communists who were at least Vietnamese, and #2 In Eastern cultures the group is more important than the individual, so they'd all band together regardless of what the individual people were suffering. I think the Iraq situation is very similar to the one in Vietnam and nothing that Bush says can convince me otherwise.--DemoCat

5:53 PM, August 09, 2005  
Blogger kubasio said...

You are absolutely right. Since these silly back water fools can't seem to accept democracy without slapping women let's just nuke the whole joint. Seriously, since we tried a solution and the liberals have declared it a failure let's opt for no solution. Let's just let tyrants fester and have them handle those religious problems themselves.

Islam works so well under a theocracy like Afghanistan. Heck, only 2,752 people died in the World Trade Centers from that little experiment. I guess trying to install a democracy is a big waste of time.

Morons.

10:09 PM, August 09, 2005  
Blogger Ron said...

Joe, I'm for all people having freedom and democracy. Can't force something like that though. It's an evolutionary process. My whole point is we are inducing exactly what we don't want with this method. This wasn't the only way to achieve our goals. There is more than one way to skin a cat. This was ..pardon me..the morons way.

Game...Is that all you can say?...can you read?

10:43 PM, August 09, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

Ron, go to my blog and see the latest entry...it is all spelled out there...

I really thought you had a few brain cells in your head...now seeing that you think your link actually defends your point shows me that liberals really do have a mental disorder...

my blog since you seem to scared to go there yourself and comment:

I just don't understand the thought process of a liberal.

Liberal blogs are saying that Matt Drudge is taking the protesting mom's quotes out of context...

A guy named Ron sent me the original article, no doubt to show me how Drudge is a liar...Reading this article only reconfirmed the fact that Drudges story is correct...

Read the Drudge story, then read the liberal editorial stating that "Many troops were killed since she met him" and "she is allowed to change her mind over the course of a year."

These states might all be true, and none of them have ANYTHING to do with the fact that this woman changed her story about meeting the President....That is the issue here...Lying about the President for your own political gain...

Read the two articles, and try to come up with a logical argument that this women changed her story about meeting the President. After your brain starts to hurt, and the pressure mounts...Grab some duct tape and wrap it around your head...THEN think about how the fact that this woman lied and changed her story about meeting the President has anything to do with the fact that people can change their mind about the war, that many American's have, and that thousands of soldiers have died in a year...

When your brain explodes trying to think like this...The duct tape will catch your brain and someone can put you back together...

I want libs to post telling me how the quotes were taken out of context...

11:41 PM, August 09, 2005  
Blogger kubasio said...

If you can bomb the crap out of Japan and turn them into a mighty industrial power I think bombing the crap out of a few Iraqis could achieve the desired result as well. There is no sure way to bring democracy to these countries, for every victory we have at least one failure. Saying that the effort has stalled, or our efforts are worthless is no good. I think the only way to do it is the way we're doing now. To cite our previous failures our support of figurheads and strongmen seems to be the only other option and look how crappy those have turned out.

9:51 PM, August 10, 2005  
Blogger The Game said...

where did ron go?
come back ron, come back to us.

10:38 AM, August 11, 2005  

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