Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Obama Speech In Philadephia

I am sure that there will be all kinds of people talking about the Obama speech who saw only 2 or 3 minute snippets of it. I think everyone should see it in full context so I have tried to make it easy.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron, thanks for posting this. I'll try and let other people know. I think a lot has to do with one's preception of what is real and true. I find that most of what is identified as left and liberal to be real and true, but if it were to change then I wouldn't. BTW, since you don't have a coffee table up, I wish more than ever we had your program here. I was informed of a new website dealing with issues in Roswell - www.talkroswell.com. While I have not posted on it, I know some who have. It discusses issues and events in Roswell but is Dominated by hateful, incoherent and inaccurate postings all too typical of Roswell/SENM viewpoints.

Larry in New Mexico

1:36 PM, March 19, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron, I try to carefully read my statements before posting but noticed that my 4th sentence was incongruously stated. My meaning was that if what was identified mostly as left or liberal no longer reflected what was real or true, then I wouldn't accept the left or liberal view. Not that I would not change.

Larry in New Mexico

1:47 PM, March 19, 2008  
Blogger Dedanna said...


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Have phun.

8:17 AM, March 20, 2008  
Blogger Ron said...

Yep, I know what you mean Larry. I wish the show was on anywhere. Don't think I haven't been trying. Unfortunately it's hard to be on the left in any way and have a chance to speak out. It is not at all inaccurate to say that they fear the left and they fear the right wing nut cases, especially in the smaller towns, that would squeal and screech about what horrible things anybody liberal was saying. Again, those with the money get the grease.

They have a comments section online for our local paper here. There are some of all stripes on there. I think if it is possible it is good to post on a right wing site. Not that you will convince anybody of anything. They bully people to get rid of them and then they get the idea that "everybody" agrees with them. They need to know that is not the case. Don't go in thinking you will ever get them thinking in the way you think though. The conservative brained and the liberal brained do not process information the same. They don't even think alike.

There is a book online called the authoritarians by Robert Altemeyer that makes it easier to understand them.

6:22 PM, March 20, 2008  
Blogger Marshall Art said...

"The conservative brained and the liberal brained do not process information the same. They don't even think alike."

Well, that's true enough. But the part about liberalism reflecting truth and reality isn't. If you want to convince a conservative of anything, truth and reality have to be involved. But the fact is that from the left, fact and fantasy are often confused. By this I refer to what one might desire versus what is truly possible. For example, we see how a true market economy is self-correcting and the best way for all to flourish, but the left insists that government needs to monitor and control everything because apparently we aren't smart enough to handle our own affairs. For those who truly aren't, it doesn't make sense to inhibit the rest when they make no attempts to separate those who truly can't help themselves from those who simply won't.

If there are any other notions of what reality and truth is reflected in liberal policy, please bring it up. Likely it's a misperception and I'll explain why.

1:04 PM, March 22, 2008  
Blogger Ron said...

Well marshal, Like I said, we see it fundamentally different. If you are speaking of Lazzie-Faire Capitolism.

It is not self correcting and the recent bank crisis proves it. Remove all the regulations and they do whatever they want. When it's over a few have the money and most get smacked

As a liberal I see the government as us, as a conservative most look at it as them. I see government as an organizing body for our society. You see it as an impediment. Does the government go to far? Yes, often that happens but having little to no structure to laws or society is even worse. It's called anarchy. Which is as close to what the radical right believes as I am to socialism.

2:03 PM, March 30, 2008  
Blogger Marshall Art said...

Not speaking of anarchy. I'm talking about a government that does only what it was created to do. It is not the duty of government to prevent people from screwing themselves.

Could you clarify what you mean by "bank crisis"?

1:09 AM, April 06, 2008  
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