Tuesday, August 01, 2006

Coffee Table Now With Expresso

Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle

Open forum..you say it, we'll talk about it.

13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, wonder who will be getting the (re)construction contracts in Lebanon? KBR? Paid for by whom?

Larry in Roswell

12:19 AM, August 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the war thing, at any level, does not really make any sanity. You are supposed to kill other persons you don't know because "them" are on the "other" side. Lest you think me a pacifist,
at the same time are not allowed to defend yourself against those who practice legal and economic terrorism against you because
"they" are on "this" side. But you are allowed, even required, to practice economic war, the Real War, on everyone.
Religion, nationalism, ethnicism, money (market) worship, fighting the dangerous "other" really are for the masses. Of course its not really just, or so much, the rulers
as it is systematic. Its really just glorified gang-banging.
Most material things are good in moderation, but without doing right, the golden rule thing, it is nothing but corrupt. And laws and their application without it are nothing but legalism - and corrupt.
Societies, nations, groups, families, etc. are just like individuals in that when you are young you can usually get away with a lot of destructive behavior, if it doesn't kill you then, albeit with some grief. But as you get older it takes its toll and even if you try and correct sometimes its already to late for any meaningful change. Your just worn out. They just eventually destroy themselves before their time and with a lot of hurt they need not have, or are to a point where just about anybody or anything can do them in.

Well, Ron, there are some thoughts.

Larry in Roswell

4:05 AM, August 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"at any level" should be "to any degree" and "to late", "too late".

Larry

4:11 AM, August 04, 2006  
Blogger Ron said...

Quite cogent thoughts too Larry. I wonder if the human race will ever discover how much easier it is to comprimise and get along. If we could only isolate the truly evil doers. Unfortantely war causes more hate and makes the "enemy" tag seem even more appropriate to both sides. It is a circle of violence and someone has to stand up and say stop it. Many, Many someones. I am glad that you and i are a part of that group. Win or not, standing up for doing the right thing is a reward in its' self.

5:39 AM, August 04, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

I'd still like a good definition of "evil" -- and who exactly the "evil-doers" are.

What's good and right in one person's eyes (or even in one particular society's eyes) may not be to another, and even then another comes along with a different perspective.

Who gets to say what true evil is? Who gets to say what true good is? America? Is America the one defining factor? Or does it just think it is? If it is, is this in itself good and right?

Would welcome input.

10:37 AM, August 04, 2006  
Blogger Ron said...

You are right Dedanna. Each side sees it as right that they are "protecting" their people and way of life. Most would agree that people should be able to do that. Right and wrong, to me, seems to be harder to sort than evil and good. To me, doing good is working for the best for all concerned. That means war is evil because it is not the best thing for anybody. A necessary evil sometimes because of the right and wrong issues above. Again, to me evil is destructive and good is uplifting. What is the best outcome for all concerned should be the question we continually ask if we are to get to what is good in the world.

4:57 PM, August 04, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hello from iowa. no time to write. first time i have been on a computer since the end of june. have been in the new house in the great little town of northwood, iowa. closed on it last friday, moved in saturday, and have been cleaning and unpacking for a week. probably going back to roswell tomorrow -- maybe wednesday. THEN my book truck and i are going to camp casey for a few days again.

still getting comments on "america's hitler" and requests for transcripts of my "book truck."

if anyone wants to go and share gas, let me know.

call 507-313-6158 or 505-347-2591

THEN i must get back to working on my house in roswell and getting it on the market so i can get back to northwood. great little town of 2000 people has more on the ball than the town of 50,000. got coupons from 33 merchants today for "welcome wagon." of course i will antagonize half the town when i bring my truck here.

lonna

9:41 PM, August 07, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

Ron?

I'm wondering if you'll keep the Roswell url of this blog if you leave Roswell?

Wondering if realamerica.blogspot.com would be taken, without the roswell part?

Would be a good one for you --

10:36 AM, August 08, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

2006 State of World Liberty Index

Seems an interesting link...

2:16 PM, August 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lonna, Good to see you back on here. Notice on the map that you are not too far from Minneapolis-St.Paul, so other than the really cold winters that seems a definite plus. Stay in touch.

Larry in Roswell

11:03 PM, August 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is a good site that explains a lot about "Christian" Fundamentalism. Also, who wrote what and will the real whomevers please stand up. www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/
paulvsall.html.
See if this makes some since out of things religious,e.g. how so many "Christian" Fundamentalists have a culture that is so Cruel and Punative towards others, even their own, in matters not just religious, but social, economic, political, etc. as well. Afterall, why change your authoritarian and dominianist ways towards others if your religion tells you to be that way. People apparently do the same with the Koran too.

Larry in Roswell

11:00 PM, August 09, 2006  
Blogger Dedanna said...

I love it.

Dems and Repubs alike took a huge hit.

If you ask me, this election in particular was a loss for everyone, and I'm enjoying it.

Lieberman, running on the independent ticket, nowhere near expresses another independent's views -- certainly doesn't express mine, and I'm independent.

Pro-war among other things, he needs to bow out, as what he's doing is ludicrous. He's hurting not only himself, but all parties, independent, Repug, and Dem alike. I didn't like him when he ran for pRez before, and don't any more now than I did then.

Here's to finding a real independent to run -- if anyone has the hudzpah (sp?).

9:27 AM, August 10, 2006  
Blogger Ron said...

Lonna, Good to hear from you. I hope you will continue to contribute here when you get settled. I think you will like Iowa. You may be suprized. Many people there are far more progressive than most imagine. Only thing is....its cooooold in the winter.

Dedanna..real america is already taken. I don't relish changing the url because it makes the blog harder to find for the few who actually contribute and the some who read.

Larry, a fundie is a fundie. It is just a matter of degrees.

2:53 AM, August 13, 2006  

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