A Quiz
When it comes to spiritual matters I consider myself an independant. I'm never comfortable in any specific religion. Mostly because I adamantly detest self aggrandizing dogma. However, I do have spiritual principals that I live by. Here is an interesting quiz that will match you up with a religion. Are you really the religion you think you are?
I came out at the top with Unitarian 100%/ Liberal Quaker 97% /Bahai 95% and Reformed Jew 94%. After reading the descriptions I think the Quaker and Jew are closest. At the bottom of my list..what I most definately am not: Mainline to conservative Christian Protestent 36%/ Roman Catholic 35% and nontheist(Atheist) 25%. Pretty on the money there.
Now the strange part. What is the vast majority of Roswell, NM? Conservative Christians and Catholics! Thanks to my friends on the blog and on the show that help me feel at home here. From the religions to living in a small town, I'm normally comfortable with neither..I'd be like a fish out of water without you.
Ok, a little fun. Take the quiz. I'd be interested to see all the results. Were they close or way off. I thought it was pretty close for me but I forever remain an independant. That's one of those principals I live by.
Quiz here
posted by Ron at 9:05 PM
38 Comments:
Shalom!
It appears that I should be converting to Judaism very soon, as I scored 100% for Reform Judaism
and 94% for Orthodox Judaism.
On the other hand, my savior was a Jew (Yes, Jesus was, too, a Jew, Game!!)so it would make sense that as a Christian I would have many of those beliefs.
My lowest score was Nontheist at 26%.
I am an Roman Catholic turned Episcopalian who always says "Once a Catholic, always a Catholic. Doesn't explain the 46% score on RC-I did get an 83% n Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestant, tho.
Guess, I'm a typical Judeo-Christian Liberal who believes in reincarnation. :-)
Must tell Wizard and Odyssey about this quiz!
I took this a year or so ago, and our top three are the same.
My ex took the quiz and he turned out to be a neo-pagan, not too big a surprise. My best friend took it and was 100% Mormon-Whoa! (She is a Catholic turned Mormon turned Catholic.)Told Wizard and Odyssey about it, so hopefully they will post their results.
Was thinking that maybe the reason I scored so high on Judaism is that I belong to the TV Generation (born in '58), so much of the culture I have grown up with has been influenced by Jewish writers, sociologists, professors, and entertainers. That probably impacts my viewpoint as much as my parents' influence, esp. since we weren't much for going to church.
Also, I'm open minded about all the new age stuff, ("Jonathon Livingston Seagull" is one of my favorite books and "What Dreams May Come" is my favorite movie.), but when I had to choose traditional or new age, I was more sure about the traditional, except for reincarnation which Jews apparently believe in.
Oh, well, will have to learn to make matzah ball soup and memorize "The Little Book of Yiddish Phrases" (Oy vey/Faith n'begorrah I must have mistaken my Jewish guilt for Irish Roman Catholic guilt. Ha!)
Some what it called a Chritmas tree, others want it call a holiday tree. The bible calls it a heathen tree.
Jeremiah 10
10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Pagans and heathens are hijacking Christmas. Why is Bush engaging in a pagan ritual by lighting the heathen tree?
Here's an idea. Why not plant a living Christmas tree on the White House lawn, so in 40 or 50 years they can stop cutting down old trees for the White House Christmas* tree. And yes,Donkey, many of our Christmas customs were originally pagan. Dec. 25 was the Roman Festival of Saturn, and Jesus' birthday was celebrated then to supplant the pagan holiday. Of course, I should be talking about Hannakha (sp?). (sigh) Maybe I'll be a Jew in my next life or I was in a previous one? That's assuming the world doesn't end soon thanks to PNAC!
Also, scored high for Unitarian, Lib Quaker, and Bahai and higher for Eastern religions than for Catholic or Conservative Christian.
* OK, let's be TRADITIONAL and call it what we've called it for hundreds of years and the ATHEISTS can please SHUT UP!
Democrat:
Good thing you do not work for Walmart. They would fire you for saying Christmas customs were pagan.
What do you mean were pagan. The pagan customs are pagan. The verse is quite clear, "Learn not the way of the heathen." Moving the time of year of Christ's birth to celebrate a false god is wrong.
We tested and turned out exactly as we thought, "100% Reform Judaism," which of course is the only listing that would respond to our true beliefs - Kabbalah. Light and Love The Maniacs
To "Annonymous":
Re: Walmart-well, golly gee whiz, I thought Christmas at Walmart, etc. was more about following Bush's advice to shop until you drop than it was about celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. Christian, pagan, etc. what's the difference to Walmart? Do they sell mennorahs and things for Kwanza? They should, and make more money that way, cuz that's what it's all about for the big corporations.
Re: pagan-Christians considered anything that was not Christian pagan or heathen. Now, I think it mostly refers to Wicca and that kind of thing. I scored pretty high for neo-pagan, myself, but that's because I am open to a lot of new age things, tarot cards, psychic phenomenon, etc. despite being a Christian. I'm also pro-environment which the Wiccas definitely are, too. By pagan, I meant by Middle Ages standards, so anything not Judeo-Christian, but mostly Celtic customs from Northern Europe. What did Annonymous (Donkey?) get if he took the test?
Re: Wizard and Odyssey getting Reformed Judaism like me-all right! I should start studying The Kabbalah, myself, I guess. :-)
Took the quiz to see what my spiritual type is-
Old Fashioned Seeker-
basically, this means I'm supposed to be happy with my religion, but looking for alternate expressions of it. I think our answers have a lot to do with how the questions are phrased, so the results aren't necessarily accurate.
Sometimes, I think I should start my own religion where what we think of as Heaven is a place to rest between incarnations. Ultimately, we will reach enlightenment (which is at least as important as faith and good works) otherwise known as nirvana and become ONE with the Creator (The Light) who is the source of all things. One's religion, if any, is not important in this quest, only spirituality. Jesus could be the Son of the Creator or just a great Prophet. His message is the most important thing, and the messages of other prophets who also preached about the same things are also valid. Peace, love, charity, and cooperation between all peoples is very important.
Oh, wait, isn't that what being Bahai is all about? Guess, I don't have to start another new religion in a world with too many, but Bahais want all religions to join together, anyway. If the traditional beliefs from childhood weren't so ingrained in me that I tend to choose those answers if I have to choose, I would be a Bahai rather than a Judeo-Christian, I guess. It sounds like a really neat religion!
democat. Shalom. I the refom judisam fell very close to my feelings..the liberal quakers to. I heard it was quakers that were taken in Iraq. So are they peace activists or religious activists. ..The really strange part is that you don't these days see peace activists as lining up with the currently pc religious practices. How does that make sense. It truly is bizzaro world!
The Democat is curious.
As to her remark "Christians considered anything that was not Christian pagan or heathen."
Pagan and heathen are the same thing. A neo pagan is a pagen. Jews and Muslums are not heathen, they believe in the same God the Christians do.
There is nothing in the Bible that indicates Jesus was born on December 25 or in the winter. The date was set because of Pagan celibrations. Why continue in heathen customs?
True, but curiousity hasn't killed me yet, Donkey. ;-)
OK, should've said pagan/heathen.
I have no objection to Wicca whether it's pagan or not, except for the part about doing "spells". I do believe that God's adversary exists and I tend to think that attempting to do "magic" (not fortune telling) might attract attention from Satan and his minion. Also, it's sort of like with "the force" from "Star Wars" attempts by many to practice white witchcraft might result in them being drawn to "the dark side". It's safer not to do it. (Now Mr. Practical Reality will finally have to ban me from the show/blog for being too far out and wacky to listen to.)
I do like the Wiccan emphasis on nature, environmentalism, love, peace, equality, etc. and a nurturing peace loving "Goddess" is more appealing than the fundamentalist's vengeful Old Testement God.
As for keeping pagan (heathen) customs, it's tradition and it's fun! What did Donkey get on the test? I'm curiouser and curiouser with all his talk about heathens. :-)
Speaking of Mr. Practical Reality-
what's with dissing The Monkees trying to get into The Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame? Hiss! I've always really liked them & loved their music and their show. "Daydream Believer" is one of my favorite songs, but I have NO use for heavy metal at all. I don't think I can even name a song that Van Halen has done let alone Metallica, etc. To each his or her own, and I, for one, hope Davy, Mickey, Mike, and Peter make it into the R & R H of F someday.
Just took the quiz on how good a Catholic I am (I converted from RC to Episcopalian years ago.) I am a Progressive Catholic-wanting change esp. re: social justice issues, women, minorities, etc. but on the verge of alienated Catholic. (I got 36% for RC on the quiz.) Our Catholic bloggers should take this quiz.
Actually democat I think you were pretty close to it when you said you were going to come up with your own religion of all the things that you thought were good or right. I think if one keeps in contact with God he will give you unfettered access. Believe yourself and your personal relationship with your higher power. Not what someones religion insists on. For me anyway, it is the only way I can truly make sense of it all.
Monkees booo hisss...Van Halen ROCKS!:-)
What an inquisitive interest in others' concerns, the Democat has. Oscar Wilde said "You know what a woman's curiosity is? Almost as great as a man's!" It is apparent Wilde did not meet the Democat.
It will take more than tradition and fun to get the Donkey to celebrate pagen rituals. The verse, "For the customs of the people are vain", is clear to the Donkey.
Van Halen has helped the Donkey through some tough times. Life would be different if the Donkey had not heard "Jump".
"I get up, and nothing gets me down.
You got it tough. I've seen the toughest around.
And I know, baby, just how you feel.
You've got to roll with the punches to get to what's real
Oh can't you see me standing here,
I've got my back against the record machine
I ain't the worst that you've seen.
Oh can't you see what I mean ?
Might as well jump. Jump ! "
I did say to each his or her own. Yes, Democat admits that she is inquisitive, but how will she understand Donkey better if he will not share his core beliefs? Even The Game has been willing to do that a couple of times.
Does abstaining from pagan customs mean no Christmas trees, wreaths, etc. and not celebrating Jesus' birthday on Dec. 25? If that's the way you like it go for it. It's a free country. I like the decorations, etc. and I celebrate Halloween, too, even though some here in Roswell would call me a pagan for that. But, hey, girls just wanna have fun and Christmas and Halloween are fun holidays.
Ooh, is Ron unhappy with my "democatty" remark about HIS taste in music? I noted today's sarcastic remark following "Somewhere in the Night". I'm a big Barry Manilow fan, too, but neither Ron or Donkey has to like his music.
(Guess, Barry's music is just too romantic for our pragmatic DJ to like. Heavy metal and hard rock is more his speed. :-)) I didn't exactly boo hiss Van Halen-it's just not my cup of tea even if it does rock. Maybe Ron should DJ for a station that wouldn't make him play pop rock songs.
Ron:
Mr. Practical Reality refers to your pragmatism, your dislike of the horror and fantasy genres, and your apparent disbelief in the paranormal (UFOs, E.T.s, psychic phenomenon, etc.) I can see from listening to you that you prefer researching the news to reading fiction and that any story, book, movie, etc. MUST have a moral lesson to teach. It's not enough for them to be entertaining. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would say that you believe in God, but not necessarily in Satan, demons, or angels. I doubt you believe in reincarnation or in the Kabbalah or anything else that is mystical.
Wow! It's a good thing that Diane, Linda, Maniac, and I can talk to you about politics and religion (to an extent) cuz I think we are very different types of people.
:-) That's not an insult-it's just an observation.
Peace!
I used to be a member of beliefnet --
I reiterate used to be.
There's some bad stuff that goes down there. Took the test ages ago, and much to my regret now, became a member. I left not to often afterwards.
Never again. *shakes head*
To the inquiring mind;
The Donkey believes this: "For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." and "All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again."
To: Donkey
Sounds like you are saying that it is better to have a simple faith (like the little children who were allowed to come unto Jesus) than to complicate it by studying too much (dogma) and ashes to ashes, dust to dust means that we are born and we die.
Re: The War on Santa Claus (heard on the show today)- you can't put ANYTHING past the neo-cons!
Dick Cheney will probably get a lot of coal in his stocking this year, but he'll love it and want more more more. Then he'll turn around and sell it at inflated prices-right?
Ron didn't say anything about my last post. Is that good or bad? Hmm, I could've just listed a few of Ron's favorite things, maybe.
1. Spicy food
2. Hard Rock
3. The Internet
4. Fast cars
5. Faster women (in his case, Jessica Simpson in black leather)
Ha! (This dispels Game's notion that all Liberals are alike cuz we're not.)
Oh, re: music, I like everything but rap, not very keen on opera and country, but I love pop-rock, even bubble gum rock (I actually do own a copy of "The Partridge Family's Greatest Hits"-guess, I can expect to hear a Partridge Family-boo hiss from the guys, now.)
Well democat lets see, pretty much on the money except that I actually do have an interest in UFOs and see it as a possibility. Reencarnation is a possibility. I don't know. Haven't done that part yet.:-) Yes, I plead guilty to being a very pragmatic person. Since I don't consider myself the model for the world though, I understand that people often see things differently than I. I don't have a problem with that. Maybe what we have in common is that we think love is preferable to hate. Whatever it is it is a sincere desire to have a country that lives up to the standards it sets.
Oh and the Jessica Simpson thing. Naw, you just have to say somebody poplular so everyone knows what you're talking about. I would prefer Cori Nadine but nobody knows(fitness model) who she is. Being a fitness model one could be quite sure she won't be attaching her self to my puny ass anytime soon.
The Donkey enjoyed The Partridge Family show and music.
The Donkey always liked the Monkees.
Daydream Believer
By John Stewart
Oh, I could hide 'neath the wings
Of the bluebird as she sings.
The six o'clock alarm would never ring.
But it rings and I rise,
Wipe the sleep out of my eyes.
My shavin' razor's cold and it stings.
Cheer up, Sleepy Jean.
Oh, what can it mean.
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming queen.
The Donkey's sons know the song from an ebay comercial. They also know the song, "I'm a believer" from the movie Shrek. The group Smash mouth remade the song.
I'm surprised that The Inscrutable One (AKA The Donkey) liked The Partridge Family/Monkees (I thought maybe that was just a girl thing on my part since I was like 12/13 when The P/F was on.) Anyway, that's neat. 2 of my kids like The P/F, too-my favorite song-"Point Me in the Direction of Albuquerque." Little did I know, that I would ever actually go to Albuquerque. :-)
Wish I could claim to be a good judge of character, but I guess I know so much about Ron because unlike The Inscrutable One, he has not chosen to be a man of mystery. LOL
Never heard of Cori Nadine before, but don't feel bad, Ron. There are plenty of women who don't like muscle men. Personally, I think these body builders with huge muscles are grotesque. I couldn't convince my husband of that (sigh), but you guys get that idea into your heads and can't let it go, it seems. It's more your ego thing than ours. You could stand to put some weight on, tho. You could be blown away in a strong wind!!
As for Tressica Simpleton, nah, it's too much fun teasing you about having a thing for a dumb blonde Bush supporter. (Can't you find a celebrity who was a Kerry supporter to drool over?) It's all in fun, kind of like The Donkey teasing The Game (or maybe not like that, for your sake-Ha!)
Peace!
Latest from Minnesota is that Lonna should be home soon. She says it is VERY cold, there is snow, but that it is beautiful. She is having a good time, is OK with taking a break from the show/blog esp. since she is calling me to be updated on it and whatever news I can give her. She has been keeping busy quilting, shopping, visiting family, etc. and even helped to midwife some baby pigs, recently.
Also, re: the show and that guy that called the other day and said among other things that our opinions are based on what we CHOOSE to read, watch, listen to, etc. -wish Ron had pointed out that the so called Liberal media that leans toward Bush/the GOP doesn't offer much of a choice to people in what they are exposed to before they base their opinions on something. Not that many people have Direct TV, etc. so they can't get "Democracy Now" and shows like that, have no radio station in their area that plays it, just don't read magazines like "Mother Jones", etc. or know where to look on The Internet. Plus, radio shows like Ron's are outnumbered by shows like The Anal Cyst's by what at least 25 to 1? It sounded to me like sour grapes- everyone has a right to an opinion, but we, liberals, should stop publically expressing ours because it's "unpatriotic" to do so and because they conflict with the news HE'S been exposed to.
3 of my 4 childrent have taken this quiz now with different results:
One is 100% for secular humanism-
fits as he is the agnostic
scientific type
One is 100% for Hinduism and 95%
for Buddhism-well, this is the
son who studied/is a huge fan of
martial arts, fits him, too
My youngest son got 100% for
Unitarian Universalism and 93%
for Neo-Paganism (his dad got
100% for this)-his beliefs are
pretty eclectic and boggle MY
mind all the time, so I guess
the u/u is a good one for him
(would be nice for him to take
the quiz again in another 5
years, I think)
If my daughter took it, she'd probably be Neo-Pagan.
Told Lonna about the two oldest and she joked that I did a great job of raising my kids to be Christians. Uh, no, but I guess I raised them to be free thinkers. Is that good or bad? Also, I read the description of Reform Judaism again, pretty much on the money for me, very broad leeway re: a lot of what you can believe. Took the test to find out how good a Jew I am-very cultural/secular in my Jewishness rather than religious-strange, as I am NOT Jewish.
Had to go look at a picture of
Cori Nadine on the net. Well, she is a big improvement over Tressica* and why can't Ron say she's the one he likes and say who she is? Maybe she voted for Kerry.
Was surprised that she is brunette, tho, as I kind of had the idea that Ron likes blondes.*
You were wrong. I perfer not only brunettes but dark hair and skin. I got enough of the way way white people growing up in Iowa.:-) Actually what I really like over looks is someone whom I share a common ideal,a forward thinking person, independant and someone who is not a drama queen(break up to make up and all that ad nausem stuff/ the like to fight kind). Looks certainly work to draw attention but beyond that it has to be able to go somewhere. Could Cori? Hell if I know, and just about guaranteed I never will!
Like I said I hesitate to mention her cuz nobody knows who she is...and because a google search may bring up things that many may find unfit for their eyes.
My kids are 14 and 11 and I think they have no idea what religion they are or how it can play an important role in their life. They were raised Catholic(even going to a Catholic school for a few years) but I think they are a bit confused by it all. I think they are destined to take after dad and be an "independant".
oh ya...Britney Spears is better looking than Jessica...and likely a whole lot dumber too! (I think I'll marry a worthless slug and have his baby!)
Well, I am back from the frozen north for awhile. Walking out to check on the sows the other night, the snow glittered and glittered and glittered!! I had forgotten how beautiful that was!! I do not mind the cold as long as there is no wind. For people who have to WORK out in it, that is something else again.
I took the test, but was not very happy with it. Not enough choices. I ended up 100% Liberal Protestant, 97% Quaker, and then some more "eastern" values. But there were many questions I would have liked to answer more than one way. If I had, my results would have been more "Eastern."
I think reincarnation is a possibility. It is also possible that we continue to learn after death without reincarnation. I don't KNOW any of those things, just as i DON'T KNOW that I have to believe Jesus Christ died for me in order to be "saved." In fact I do not believe that.
The crux of most of it for me is "I don't know." I do not think we CAN know. The people who frighten me the most are the people who DO KNOW. They know EVERYTHING down to the smallest detail. No room for any deviation. They scare me to death! Fundamentalists of any stripe!! Their god is very small. Also, usually very mean and vengeful except to the "elect" few who believe like they do. I believe we are ALL God's children and that CHRIST also loves all people of all religions.
My favorite verse in the Bible is "For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor, or who has given him a gift that he might be repaid? For from him and to him and through him are all things."
I do not KNOW if God is one person or three. I do not know if Christ was the ONLY incarnation (or even FOR SURE if he was an "incarnation" -- and it only gave the choice of ONE incarnation or none. I do not know or care if God has a body or not. I think He can have a body any time he wants AND that it can be the body of a man or a woman or a child. OR an animal, for that matter.
We would have to have God's mind to know what God is. We do not, therefore we cannot know. AND we can only "create" God from what we know. There is so much we don't know.
I am a Christian, but I certainly do not believe Christianity is the only way. If I had been born in a Muslim country, I would doubtless be a Muslim. Almost all of us are what we were born into. Which is kind of frightening, if you think about it. Over the years I have become a more LIBERAL Christian.
SO, you can almost say our religion is what we were taught as a child. Children are easily, and, apparently, pretty much permanently "conditioned."
Lonna
Wow, Ron, in the looks area, you sound like my blonde best friend who keeps telling me I should date Hispanics, Arabs, and other tall dark and handsome types. I don't mind the gypsy type (That actor on E.R. (Goran ?) is gorgeous), but I admit to having a weakness for blue eyed blondes like Brad.
Anyway, probably a good thing I keep dying my hair auburn and am not dark complected-LOL
I agree that looks aren't the most important thing. Having similar beliefs, common interests, etc. is important as well as being able to trust someone and talk to him/her. Intelligence and education are very important to me and a sense of humor. Believe it or not, my favorite character on "Full House" was not "Jesse", but "Joey" because he made me laugh. My not so secret ambition is to meet Robin Williams and make HIM laugh.
Anyway, you should've come to the party last night even tho you had to work til 6 pm. It was fun and so much good food, it would've been worth the drive. Not to mention a couple of gorgeous girls half your age to "drool over"-ha!
One would think that a Liberal Democrat who works around Republicans all the time, would love a chance to hang out with his own kind. Oh well, c'est la vie!
I agree with you about Britney who used to look like the girl next door. Kevin is probably a gigalo and I don't like the fact that he left his pregnant girlfriend for Britney and the latter is OK with it. She's a Bushie, too. Gotta wonder if they're proud to claim her.
Peace!
Forgot to add affectionate passionate, and romantic to my list.
Ron, your list sounds like a job description (must be an asset to ME, be independent (not need anything from ME), and not be a complainer. Tres unromantic. You might have to check into the arranged marriage thing if you don't want to remain single-ha!
Am I being mean to Ron? After all, it is just the natural order of things for Democats to tease hound dogs (cuz Democats rule and hound dogs drool!)-LOL
What do the other guys here look for in a mate? I have read that besides looks, men look for intelligence, education,common interests, a sense of humor, someone who is affectionate/passionate,
and trust/fidelity is a big issue. Even when they're being practical they want someone who is a good cook and housekeeper and will be a good other to their children.
What do the Donkey, Game, etc. think?
Also, is it strange that neither Ron or I said we liked gray hair when we have plenty of it ourselves?
that's good MOTHER to their children-got a sticky M key here
;-(
Can you believe I turned up "MORMON"!!!And then Jehovah's Witness!!!Both at 100%!!!My love turned up practically the same with only a three percent difference from LDS to JW...crazy---I suppose God really did set us up together...other percentages in close numbers were Islam and Bahai...Catholocism was real low for both of us...wonder???
This quiz was interesting to take, I'd love to see how they compute the results...
Well, I'm gonna say it anyways: Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnite!!!
PSS there is beauty inside each one of us, it is there for the taking, spiritual beauty supercedes any kind of "humanistic beauty anyday---so stop sparring Ron and Democat---what happend to opposites attract???...
Donkey loved your concept on wisdom etc. have always had major difficulties in life due to my intense level of understandings etc. would love to wake up for one day and not be able to THINK...thanks for the perspective...
Well, Diane, I agree on inner beauty. Prior to my marriage, I did date guys that some didn't think were much to look at, and some (not many) didn't think my ex was that hot, either. Actually, he was, but I might just be saying that as he's a Scorpio, my best sex sign and it was so true. LOL
Re: opposites attract, well, Ron and Democat are both Anglo, so his attraction to non-Anglos fits that, right? Seriously, Democat noted Ron's disappointment that she didn't look like what he'd pictured when she met him. Thought Diane did and hence the comment on blondes. Not especially good for my ego, but, hey, life goes on. I still get to dream about Brad! (sigh) :-)
Dear Diane Maria:
That concept of wisdom is from the Bible, the donkey would not have said anything so profound.
The Donkey shouldn't sell himself so short. He says many profound things. Guess, Ron hasn't seen that opposites attract discussion and commented on it. Probably just as well that this is in archives now. Diane was very naughty to say this-ha! Anyway, Diane, the opposite of Venus is Mars and not the planet Vulcan. LOL
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