The below link is to all the people who resigned or were forced out in this administration. Ann Wright was at Camp Casey. I even have a picture of her, but I did not know who she was or I would have tried to interview her. DARN!!
One of the people forced out was forced to resign because he said the war might cost $200 billion dollars, and the administration did not want him telling the nation that!! In other words, anyone who knows what they are talking about is not popular in this administration, and doesn’t last long. Well, that is what General Zinni said, too. He said he would last about 5 minutes in this administration because he would tell the truth!
Lonna
Pass these links on to your friends and family!! I wish to God any other news person would interview Mel Goodman
A Congressman who is always on the side of the people. One who will not sell out. One who is not rich.
Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) introduced a Resolution of Inquiry to demand the White House turn over all white papers, minutes, notes, emails and other communications kept by the White House Iraq Group (WHIG).
“This group, comprised of the President and Vice President's top aides, was critical in selling the Administration's case for war,” stated Kucinich. “We now know that the Administration hyped intelligence and misled the American public and Congress in their effort to 'sell' the war. After over 1,900 American troops have been killed in Iraq, it is long past time for this Congress to ask serious questions about WHIG and its role in the lead up to the war.” Read more here: http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=342.
Well here's the thing we may be losing sight of. It's not about who knew its who told the media. Cheney and Libby almost certainly have top security clearance. The could talk and should be able to talk about things. It's when and how it becomes public that counts here.....Ari Flescher?
This question of not knowing she was undercover is silly. Don't you think a responsible government official would maybe check the status of a CIA agent before you started telling journalists? Personal Responsibility my ass.
He didn't say her name...HUH..anybody think anyone would have a problem finding out who their spouse was and what their name was? I guess Darby Roves husband thought they would.
Then there is a separate Senate Select Intelligence Committee inquiry under way, and while the Republican chairman Pat Roberts of Kansas seems to be dragging his feet, the ranking Democrat, Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, is now under growing Democratic Party pressure to pursue this question of falsifying the case for war.
This investigation was squelched before the election in the senate 9/11 investigation committee separating it from the "other" issues of 9/11 and the conduct of the war. Maybe they are waiting for Fitz to do their work for them?
Ron, that is kinda what former CIA officer Goodman said on Democracy Now today. He said the media should have done it, the Senate Intelligence people should have done it, but they didn't. Fitzgerald ended up doing their job for them, and is a hero because of it.
He also said, as you and I and almost everyone else on your show have said, the media failed us in the runup to war. If they had done their job then, perhaps the administration would not have gotten their war, and 2000 American soldiers would still be alive.
I wrote "Letter to an American Foot Soldier" just as the war was beginning in March of 2003. I ended it with this:
So kill, and know it is not your fault. It is the fault of the administration, intent not only on world control, but on world subjugation, the cable television news channels who magnified the threat and glorified the idea of a war they knew would up their ratings, the Congress who did not debate, the Pentagon, who wanted to try out their shiny new toys, the reporters who did not question, and above all our Commander-in-Chief who listened to no one but his hawkish advisors and who valued your life and the lives of your friends so lightly that he who has never fought, sent you to war without trying by every means at his disposal to find another way. And, it is the fault of the American public, who were so willing to believe their president that we did not demand more time to try to find a better solution. So, kill soldier, perhaps, some good will come from it. Secure those oil fields. We will need them when the war is over. Would you really be there if the oil fields were not? And, when you come home, talk about the lie of it. Join your fellow soldiers in protests against it happening again, and against the idea that America owns the world! God will forgive you, you are doing your job. I wonder if He will be as quick to forgive us, the people who let it happen?
Plame's neighbors reinterviewed by the FBI, from the LA Times today.
...But neighbors contacted by The Times said they told the FBI agents that they had no idea of her agency life, and that they knew her only as a mother of twins who worked as an energy consultant.
The agents "made it clear they were part of the Fitzgerald investigation, and they were basically tying up loose ends," said David Tillotson, a Washington lawyer and neighbor, who was among those interviewed Monday.
"They really only had one interest, and that was to know whether Valerie's identity, on what she did for a living, was known prior to the Novak article. It seemed they were trying to establish clearly that prior to the Novak article she was not widely known on the cocktail circuit," Tillotson said.
"And I pointed out, we were good friends, we socialized with them, and we just had no idea" until her status was made public in the Novak column, Tillotson said. "To that moment, we had no idea whatsoever that Valerie did anything for the government."
Some people familiar with national security investigations said they found this week's questioning to be curious at a time when Fitzgerald appeared to be wrapping up his investigation. They said establishing her covert status should have been a priority at the outset of the case; if her employer was already well known, the prosecutor would not have a case to bring under the agent-protection law.
But others said they suspected that Fitzgerald was just being meticulous, and that he had previously made a judgment about her status and was, in an abundance of caution, looking to further corroborate that belief. The questioning seemed "confirmatory," said one person who was interviewed but who declined to be identified. Some neighbors said they had been interviewed previously by the FBI.
"They basically asked me if I knew what she did prior to the leak," said Marc Lefkowitz, another neighbor. The answer, he said, was an unambiguous "no."
"I knew he was a former ambassador. We had dinner at their house," Lefkowitz said. "She was just a normal mother of twins."
Rockin' around the Fitzmas tree As we're waiting for the news. Everyone bloggin' merrily Will the liars pay their dues?
Rockin' around the Fitzmas tree As the bright gold leaves do swing Later we'll serve some humble pie And we'll do some frog-marchin'
You will get a patriotic feeling when you hear... Fitzie chargin' his indictments Happy U.S.A. excitement!
Rockin' around the Fitzmas tree Oh, won't the day come soon? BushCo will all dress up in orange When Fitzie drops the boom! ~by Debby
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God rest ye liberal citizens Let nothing you dismay Remember the grand jury Could wrap it up today And send the traitorous neo-cons Frog-marching on their way
Indictments of Cheney and Rove, Cheney and Rove Indictments of Cheney and Rove ~by peacemonger
Harry Reid has called for Rove's resignation. I say Bush should fire him. Kerry has a petition to that effect, but will W fire his evil strategist? Probably not. Maybe he'll have to find out the hard way when Rove gives him and Cheney up for a lighter sentence. Fitzmas week for Rove can't come soon enough for me.
Ron says that Rove's lawyer met with Fitzgerald prior to the indictments against Libby being made public. No indictments against Rove (who I REALLY want to see go to jail!) yet. Question: Would Rove offer to testify against Libby and Cheney if he was guaranteed immunity? Would Fitzgerald even make a deal like that? Scary thought. Alos, Ron, loved the "Alito" song, but please play the Scooter Doo ("Scooby Doo") one again!!!
We know there are crooks among us, its horrible to admit that they in such high places, but so be it. I Believe the 2000+ deaths in Iraq will qualify Adolf Bush and Joseph Mengela Cheney with Blue Ribbons. The Maniac
Dick's "Cheney of Command" Me, Myself,& I Paul "Big Bad Wolfo'wits" Donald "Bombsfeld" Lewis Scooter "NotaLibby" Alberto "The Torturer" Gonzales "President" George "Warhawk" Bush "Neo-Condoleeza" Rice "Fail to Protect the Environment" Norton...
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The first link is to former CIA agent Mel Goodman on the coming indictments. FASCINATING interview!
http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl?sid=05/10/25/1412248
The below link is to all the people who resigned or were forced out in this administration. Ann Wright was at Camp Casey. I even have a picture of her, but I did not know who she was or I would have tried to interview her. DARN!!
One of the people forced out was forced to resign because he said the war might cost $200 billion dollars, and the administration did not want him telling the nation that!! In other words, anyone who knows what they are talking about is not popular in this administration, and doesn’t last long. Well, that is what General Zinni said, too. He said he would last about 5 minutes in this administration because he would tell the truth!
Lonna
Pass these links on to your friends and family!! I wish to God any other news person would interview Mel Goodman
http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl?sid=05/10/25/1412252
A Congressman who is always on the side of the people. One who will not sell out. One who is not rich.
Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) introduced a Resolution of Inquiry to demand the White House turn over all white papers, minutes, notes, emails and other communications kept by the White House Iraq Group (WHIG).
“This group, comprised of the President and Vice President's top aides, was critical in selling the Administration's case for war,” stated Kucinich. “We now know that the Administration hyped intelligence and misled the American public and Congress in their effort to 'sell' the war. After over 1,900 American troops have been killed in Iraq, it is long past time for this Congress to ask serious questions about WHIG and its role in the lead up to the war.” Read more here: http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=342.
Lonna
Well here's the thing we may be losing sight of. It's not about who knew its who told the media. Cheney and Libby almost certainly have top security clearance. The could talk and should be able to talk about things. It's when and how it becomes public that counts here.....Ari Flescher?
Of course what it really should and hopefully is about is the fear mongering of the American people into a preemptive war baised on lies.
This question of not knowing she was undercover is silly. Don't you think a responsible government official would maybe check the status of a CIA agent before you started telling journalists? Personal Responsibility my ass.
He didn't say her name...HUH..anybody think anyone would have a problem finding out who their spouse was and what their name was? I guess Darby Roves husband thought they would.
Lonna, one of my "notes" I have to use sometime:
Then there is a separate Senate Select Intelligence Committee inquiry under way, and while the Republican chairman Pat Roberts of Kansas seems to be dragging his feet, the ranking Democrat, Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, is now under growing Democratic Party pressure to pursue this question of falsifying the case for war.
This investigation was squelched before the election in the senate 9/11 investigation committee separating it from the "other" issues of 9/11 and the conduct of the war. Maybe they are waiting for Fitz to do their work for them?
Ron, that is kinda what former CIA officer Goodman said on Democracy Now today. He said the media should have done it, the Senate Intelligence people should have done it, but they didn't. Fitzgerald ended up doing their job for them, and is a hero because of it.
He also said, as you and I and almost everyone else on your show have said, the media failed us in the runup to war. If they had done their job then, perhaps the administration would not have gotten their war, and 2000 American soldiers would still be alive.
I wrote "Letter to an American Foot Soldier" just as the war was beginning in March of 2003. I ended it with this:
So kill, and know it is not your fault. It is the fault of the administration, intent not only on world control, but on world subjugation, the cable television news channels who magnified the threat and glorified the idea of a war they knew would up their ratings, the Congress who did not debate, the Pentagon, who wanted to try out their shiny new toys, the reporters who did not question, and above all our Commander-in-Chief who listened to no one but his hawkish advisors and who valued your life and the lives of your friends so lightly that he who has never fought, sent you to war without trying by every means at his disposal to find another way. And, it is the fault of the American public, who were so willing to believe their president that we did not demand more time to try to find a better solution. So, kill soldier, perhaps, some good will come from it. Secure those oil fields. We will need them when the war is over. Would you really be there if the oil fields were not? And, when you come home, talk about the lie of it. Join your fellow soldiers in protests against it happening again, and against the idea that America owns the world! God will forgive you, you are doing your job. I wonder if He will be as quick to forgive us, the people who let it happen?
Lonna
Plame's neighbors reinterviewed by the FBI, from the LA Times today.
...But neighbors contacted by The Times said they told the FBI agents that they had no idea of her agency life, and that they knew her only as a mother of twins who worked as an energy consultant.
The agents "made it clear they were part of the Fitzgerald investigation, and they were basically tying up loose ends," said David Tillotson, a Washington lawyer and neighbor, who was among those interviewed Monday.
"They really only had one interest, and that was to know whether Valerie's identity, on what she did for a living, was known prior to the Novak article. It seemed they were trying to establish clearly that prior to the Novak article she was not widely known on the cocktail circuit," Tillotson said.
"And I pointed out, we were good friends, we socialized with them, and we just had no idea" until her status was made public in the Novak column, Tillotson said. "To that moment, we had no idea whatsoever that Valerie did anything for the government."
Some people familiar with national security investigations said they found this week's questioning to be curious at a time when Fitzgerald appeared to be wrapping up his investigation. They said establishing her covert status should have been a priority at the outset of the case; if her employer was already well known, the prosecutor would not have a case to bring under the agent-protection law.
But others said they suspected that Fitzgerald was just being meticulous, and that he had previously made a judgment about her status and was, in an abundance of caution, looking to further corroborate that belief. The questioning seemed "confirmatory," said one person who was interviewed but who declined to be identified. Some neighbors said they had been interviewed previously by the FBI.
"They basically asked me if I knew what she did prior to the leak," said Marc Lefkowitz, another neighbor. The answer, he said, was an unambiguous "no."
"I knew he was a former ambassador. We had dinner at their house," Lefkowitz said. "She was just a normal mother of twins."
Lonna
A Great blog, The work is not the Roswell Donkey's. Great Donkeys think alike plus a funny picture
“Treason is the reason for the season.”
The folks at KOS have Fitzmas Carols!
Like these:
Rockin' around the Fitzmas tree
As we're waiting for the news.
Everyone bloggin' merrily
Will the liars pay their dues?
Rockin' around the Fitzmas tree
As the bright gold leaves do swing
Later we'll serve some humble pie
And we'll do some frog-marchin'
You will get a patriotic
feeling when you hear...
Fitzie chargin' his indictments
Happy U.S.A. excitement!
Rockin' around the Fitzmas tree
Oh, won't the day come soon?
BushCo will all dress up in orange
When Fitzie drops the boom!
~by Debby
---
God rest ye liberal citizens
Let nothing you dismay
Remember the grand jury
Could wrap it up today
And send the traitorous neo-cons
Frog-marching on their way
Indictments of Cheney and Rove,
Cheney and Rove
Indictments of Cheney and Rove
~by peacemonger
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For lots more, go here.
Happy Fitzmas!
On Yahoo News right now.
Scooter Libby has resigned (5 indictments, so far). Yes!!! Next up, Karl "The Brain" Rove. I can hardly wait!!!
Harry Reid has called for Rove's resignation. I say Bush should fire him. Kerry has a petition to that effect, but will W fire his evil strategist? Probably not. Maybe he'll have to find out the hard way when Rove gives him and Cheney up for a lighter sentence. Fitzmas week for Rove can't come soon enough for me.
Ron says that Rove's lawyer met with Fitzgerald prior to the indictments against Libby being made public. No indictments against Rove (who I REALLY want to see go to jail!) yet. Question: Would Rove offer to testify against Libby and Cheney if he was guaranteed immunity? Would Fitzgerald even make a deal like that? Scary thought. Alos, Ron, loved the "Alito" song, but please play the Scooter Doo ("Scooby Doo") one again!!!
We know there are crooks among us, its horrible to admit that they in such high places, but so be it. I Believe the 2000+ deaths in Iraq will qualify Adolf Bush and Joseph Mengela Cheney with Blue Ribbons. The Maniac
Dick's "Cheney of Command"
Me,
Myself,&
I
Paul "Big Bad Wolfo'wits"
Donald "Bombsfeld"
Lewis Scooter "NotaLibby"
Alberto "The Torturer" Gonzales
"President" George "Warhawk" Bush
"Neo-Condoleeza" Rice
"Fail to Protect the
Environment" Norton...
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